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The Need is an American
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band formed by the singer and drummer
Rachel Carns Rachel Carns (born August 13, 1969) is an American musician, composer, artist and performer living in Olympia, Washington, U.S. Raised in small-town Wisconsin, she went on to study painting and drawing at Cooper Union for the Advancement of Sc ...
and the guitarist
Radio Sloan Radio Sloan is a musician from Olympia, Washington. They are best known as a guitarist for The Need, the band they formed with Rachel Carns. In 2022, they formeSky Lionswith longtime friend and vocalist, Outer Stace. Releasing their first album ...
in
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, in the mid-1990s. After issuing a series of seven-inches on labels including
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and
Outpunk Outpunk enjoys the distinction of being the first record label entirely devoted to queer punk bands. The label was run out of San Francisco and began as an extension of Matt Wobensmith's fanzine, ''Outpunk''. ''Outpunk'' ran for seven issues, fro ...
, the Need relocated to
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and released two albums for
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. The duo's unsettling brand of
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(combined with Carns' distinctive artwork) would set them apart and ensure their versatility. During the band's initial run, they played shows with such diverse acts as
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,
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, The Ex and Bright Eyes, and toured with
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,
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and
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. Their third album, ''The Transfused'', acted as a soundtrack to the
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of the same name. The Need dissolved in 2001, with Carns and Sloan shifting their focus to other projects. After briefly reuniting for benefit shows in 2010, the Need reformed for a second time in 2013 and released the album ''Resurrection''.


Background

Rachel Carns formed
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with fellow
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student Tae Won Yu in 1990. Based in
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, the pair recorded songs on Yu's 4-track and released a number of homemade cassettes. Through the network of underground
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s and
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circles, Kicking Giant were introduced to the
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movement, which merged DIY culture and
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. After performing at the
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in
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, the energy of the burgeoning Pacific Northwest punk scene proved infectious and both members were ready to leave New York. The duo parted ways temporarily in 1992 when Yu moved to Olympia and Carns to
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(where she briefly joined
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as drummer) before moving to Olympia to rejoin Yu and Kicking Giant. During the next three years Carns also performed and recorded with The Fakes, Sue P. Fox, The Pet Stains and Witchypoo. Kicking Giant issued their final album on
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in 1994 before breaking up the following year.


History


Formation and early years (1995–1997)

In 1995, Carns moved to
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to play keyboards with the CeBe Barnes Band, which included singer and future filmmaker
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, guitarist Shannon Tragedy (later known as
Radio Sloan Radio Sloan is a musician from Olympia, Washington. They are best known as a guitarist for The Need, the band they formed with Rachel Carns. In 2022, they formeSky Lionswith longtime friend and vocalist, Outer Stace. Releasing their first album ...
) and
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drummer Toni Gogin. Pioneers in the next wave of
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, they toured the West Coast with Sleater-Kinney, playing the Santa Barbara Girls Convention. After the band's demise in 1996, Carns and Sloan continued to collaborate with July and named the new line-up the Need, releasing their debut EP, ''Margie Ruskie Stops Time'', on
Kill Rock Stars Kill Rock Stars is an independent record label founded in February 1991 by Slim Moon and Tinuviel Sampson, and based in both Olympia, Washington, and Portland, Oregon. The label has released a variety of work in different genres, but it was orig ...
. They toured down the coast to play the Dirtybird Queercore Festival in
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, but July soon left to pursue solo endeavors. The Need continued as a duo and issued a second EP for Kill Rock Stars in 1997, which was followed up with an additional release on
Outpunk Outpunk enjoys the distinction of being the first record label entirely devoted to queer punk bands. The label was run out of San Francisco and began as an extension of Matt Wobensmith's fanzine, ''Outpunk''. ''Outpunk'' ran for seven issues, fro ...
. That year, Carns and Sloan relocated to Olympia where they signed with
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's queercore label
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, who released the Need's self-titled debut
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.


Collaborations and ''The Need is Dead'' (1998–1999)

Before their next album, the Need began branching out into other projects. With singer
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, the duo formed a highly theatrical surf punk
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band called The Teenage Ho-Dads. They also created a collaborative project where Carns and Sloan, with a rotating cast of players, acted as a
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band for guest singers; including Lamm, Tamala Poljak (
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), Audrey Marrs, Tracy Sawyer (
Heavens to Betsy Heavens to Betsy was an American punk band formed in Olympia, Washington in 1991 with vocalist and guitarist Corin Tucker and drummer Tracy Sawyer. The duo were part of the DIY riot grrrl, punk rock underground, and were Tucker's first band ...
) and
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. The Need released these recordings as ''Karaneedoke'', which would be part of Kill Rock Stars' Mailorder Freak Singles Club. In 1998, Joe Preston briefly joined the Need, playing bass and sampler. The songs "Vaselina" and "Talk Potty" were released as ''The Need with Joe Preston & DJ Zena'' on
Up Records Up Records was a Seattle based independent record label founded in 1994 by Chris Takino and Rich Jensen. Some of the label's best-known artists were Duster (band), Duster, 764-HERO, Built to Spill, Modest Mouse, Quasi (band), Quasi and Tad (band ...
. During this period Carns played drums with the Sub Debs and later with
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. Carns and Sloan both joined Mocket for a short time and appeared on their album ''Pro Forma''. This was followed by the pair collaborating with Two Ton Boa. The Need returned to the studio with producer Mike Lastra in summer 1999 and completed their second album, ''The Need is Dead'', for Chainsaw Records.


''The Transfused'' and breakup (2000–2001)

Following multiple collaborations, the sense of community involvement, DIY spirit, and willingness to experiment led to the Need's creation of ''The Transfused'', a full-length
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, co-written with Lamm. Twelve months in the making, with an original score by Carns and Sloan, a cast of twenty-five, a full backing band, $40,000 in
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, months of rehearsals, and hundreds of volunteers, ''The Transfused'' sold out its two-week run at Olympia's Capitol Theater in summer 2000. An album featuring music from the production was released on Yoyo Recordings. The first-ever
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took place in Olympia later that year; Carns organized and emceed the punk
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-style Dude-Looks-Like-A-Lady
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. Soon after, Sloan relocated to
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; the Need added a new bass player, Dvin Kirakosian, and for a while Carns spent alternate months in Olympia and LA. However, this only lasted for a short period as the band broke up in 2001, with Carns and Sloan moving on to other projects. Actors in the production included Nomy Lamm,
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, Mirah Yom Tov Zeitlyn, Anna "Oxygen" Huff, Zack Carlson and many other Olympians of note.


Reformation (2010–present)

In 2010, the Need briefly reunited for a handful of benefit shows for their friend (and former Kill Rock Stars employee) Natalie Cox, in order to help with her medical expenses. These shows were held in Seattle and Portland with bills that also featured
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, C Average and Joe Preston's solo project,
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. Several years later, the Need reformed for a second time and embarked on a West Coast tour in 2013. Additionally, the band released ''Resurrection'', a
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that included previously released songs from all three studio albums, early demo material and compilation tracks. Both the album title and artwork suggest the possibly of continued output, with its cover stating "in which 13 years later the dead doth rise again" and the more blatant "we're baaaaaaack 'sic'' exclaimed in the albums' liner notes.


Additional projects

After the initial break up of the Need in 2001, both members remained active in music; recording, touring and performing with a number of different artists. Radio Sloan formed Circuit Side (named after the opening track from ''The Need is Dead'') who released a self-titled EP, collaborated with
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for the band Fact or Fiction and temporarily joined
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, filling in on bass for the band's live performances. Rachel Carns formed The King Cobra who played one of their earliest shows at the first ever Homo A Go Go Festival in Olympia in 2002. Following several releases and tours supporting
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,
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and
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, The King Cobra changed their name to TWIN in 2006. Sloan and Carns also made
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contributions to '' This Island'' by
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and Tracy + the Plastics' '' Culture for Pigeon'', respectively. Sloan and drummer
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collaborated in two touring groups; The Chelsea, who acted as the backing band for
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after the release of her solo debut ''
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'', as well as The Herms, a band created to support
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, following release of her album ''
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''. In 2009, ''Transfused'' alumni
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commissioned Carns and Sloan to compose music for Under Polaris, a multimedia performance art piece by experimental theater group Cloud Eye Control.


Discography


Studio albums

*''The Need'' (1997)
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*''The Need is Dead'' (1999) Chainsaw Records *''The Transfused'' (2000) Yoyo Recordings


Compilation albums

* ''Resurrection'' (2013) self released


Extended plays and singles

*''Margie Ruskie Stops Time'' (1996)
Kill Rock Stars Kill Rock Stars is an independent record label founded in February 1991 by Slim Moon and Tinuviel Sampson, and based in both Olympia, Washington, and Portland, Oregon. The label has released a variety of work in different genres, but it was orig ...
*''The Need'' (1997) Kill Rock Stars *''Jacky O'Lantern'' (1997)
Outpunk Outpunk enjoys the distinction of being the first record label entirely devoted to queer punk bands. The label was run out of San Francisco and began as an extension of Matt Wobensmith's fanzine, ''Outpunk''. ''Outpunk'' ran for seven issues, fro ...
*''Karaneedoke'' (1998) Kill Rock Stars *''The Need with Joe Preston & DJ Zena'' (1998)
Up Records Up Records was a Seattle based independent record label founded in 1994 by Chris Takino and Rich Jensen. Some of the label's best-known artists were Duster (band), Duster, 764-HERO, Built to Spill, Modest Mouse, Quasi (band), Quasi and Tad (band ...


Compilation and soundtrack appearances

*IReleased by The Need with
Nomy Lamm Naomi Elizabeth "Nomy" Lamm (born September 1, 1975) is an American singer-songwriter and political activist. Lamm has described herself as a "bad ass, fat ass, Jew, dyke amputee." Her left foot was amputated at age three, to be fitted with a l ...
.
*IIReleased by
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with The Need.
*IIIPart of Kill Rock Stars' Mailorder Freak Singles Club.


References


External links


The Need Webpage
circa August 3, 2001, by way of th
Internet Archive Wayback MachineReview of ''The Need Is Dead''Kill Rock StarsPlazm magazine interview
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