The Toronto goth scene, the cultural
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of the
goth subculture in
Toronto
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,
Ontario
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,
Canada
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and the associated music and fashion scene, has distinct origins from goth scenes of other goth subcultural centres, such as the
UK or
Germany
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. Originally known as the "Batcavers", the term "goth" appeared only after 1988, when it was applied to the pre-existent subculture. Distinctive features included internationally recognized gothic and vampiric fashion store 'Siren',
a goth-industrial bar named 'Sanctuary: The Vampire Sex Bar',
and ''
Forever Knight
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'', a television series about an 800-year-old vampire living in Toronto. In Toronto, the
goths
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did not seek to reject mainstream status, and achieved partial acceptance throughout the mid to late 1990s.
History

In the UK, where
goth rock
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originated, the term "gothic" or "goth" was used to refer to a
subculture and style of music since circa 1982; however, in Toronto the usage of the term "goth" and the identification of a subculture as goth did not occur until years later in 1988, when goth rock was already in the midst of what is often referred to as the
'second generation' or 'second wave'.
Early years: "Batcavers", "Blitz", "Punks", and "Freaks"
In Toronto, the subculture that eventually would morph into "Goth" was an eclectic and varied group that existed prior to 1982 and was a cultural blend of
New Romantic
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,
Post-punk
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, and
Hardcore punk
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enthusiasts. There were various terms in use for members of this scene, including "Batcavers", "Blitz", and "Freaks", but often "punk" was used to describe the look (especially for outsiders). Inclusion had no specific requirements beyond participation in the music scene, it was more diverse than other goth/punk scenes. The "freaks" at this time included fans of specific music genres, and did not exclude people of colour,
transgender
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people,
gay
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While scant usage referring to male homosexuality dates to the late ...
people, or any others who participated in the Toronto
underground music
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scene.
Some "freaks", notably
Death punks and
New Romantic
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s, were extremely fashion-conscious, dressing in darker styles modeled on old
black-and-white
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horror film
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s,
Morticia Addams
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,
Lily Munster
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,
film noir
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or ratty
New Romantic
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and
glam rock
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fashions, but maintained a local "freak" identity and a general lack of knowledge of burgeoning UK goth scene. Some thought of these individuals as "pretentious, vacuous, fashion victims."
Although the term "freak" was used generically, many punks disliked being labelled freaks themselves, and considered the term to apply only to others. Some punks used the term "
Blitz Kids
The Blitz Kids were a group of people who frequented the Tuesday club-night at Blitz in Covent Garden, London in 1979-80, and are credited with launching the New Romantic subcultural movement.
History
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" when referring to the darker styled
New Romantic
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s after 1982.
Paul Samuels, co-owner of Goth Club 'Savage Garden', one of Toronto's longest running goth bars, reported "we were wearing
ointyskull buckle boots, black jeans and tour t-shirts; after that it was the
frilly shirts with long sleeves. Then I mashed in make-up and black, backcombed hair with lots of hairspray. We became the freaks of the town."
The word "freak" was not derogatory; those who called themselves "freak" tended to call everyone in this music scene "freak". In this group were the same individuals who would later become known as "the goths" after 1988. However, unlike concurrent
goth subcultures elsewhere, many of these "freaks" were primarily fashion-oriented as opposed to identifying as strongly with
gothic rock genre of music in particular.
The area between
University Avenue
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and
Spadina Avenue
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Spadina Avenue runs south ...
on
Queen Street West
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was home to the punks since the mid seventies. It was a place of old garment and textile industry buildings that time had forgotten in the seventies. Punk got its foothold in venues such as the Horseshoe Tavern, Beverley Hotel, X-Rays and the Black Bull patio (pre-bikers) and changed the area into a bohemian, artistic community (pre-current corporate gentrification). As early goth was evolving out of the punk scene these new goths found a kindred spirit and sense of community in Queen Street West as well. However, rent increases and the economic down turn of the early 1990s drove many shops, designers and residents to move to adjacent neighbourhoods, most notably
West Queen West, which is west of
Bathurst Street on
Queen Street West
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.
Kensington Market
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also attracted underground or alternative lifestyle individuals, including those who later became the goths.
Live venues in the
Queen Street West
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area started refusing to take punk bands, "Instead, they demanded progressive acts who were evolving out of punk like beautiful butterflies from ugly cocoons"; "music here was for connoseurs of
post-punk
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new music," says punk rock journalist S. Black.
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"The Toronto Scene 1977â1987 - Some of the Dives"
Punk History Canada
Queen Street West
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was the centre of goth revival at the time of the "Queen Street exodus across Spadina."
The area became known as the "
Fashion District" for its
textile
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and
upholstery
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''Upholstery'' comes from the Middle English w ...
wholesalers, which allowed goths to cheaply experiment with styles.
Queen Street West near Portland Street became known as "
Little Gotham", having the highest concentration of goth subculture in the world. The impact of the goth movement in Toronto continues to show in much of the music and arts that have emerged from Toronto since the 1990s.
Club Scene

The central hub and breeding ground for the subculture later to be known in Toronto as "goth" was the city's after-hours clubs, beginning with Voodoo on St. Joseph Street (1981-1985), Kongo on Hagerman St. (1983-4), Klub Domino on Isabella (and later Yonge St.) (1979-85), Iguana Lounge on Pears Ave, and perhaps the peak of this early period was Pariah, a Wednesday club night that would run from 10 until dawn, which originated at Kongo in 1983, originally launched by Lynn McNeil, with Siobhan O'Flynn DJ'ing. After closing at the Kongo on Hagerman St., Pariah relaunched with Siobhan O'Flynn and Stephen Scott running the after hours night at the much larger Twilight Zone on Richmond Street (1984-87), owned by the Assoon Brothers.
Other prominent DJs from this period included Dave Allen, Pam Barnes, Ivan Palmer, Donny Cochrane, Dan McKay, and others.
Clubs also part of the scene in this period were: the Silver Crown, Club Z (Batcave Night), Catwalk, Nuts and Bolts, and slightly later: Empire Club, Club Noir, Night Gallery, and Lizard Lounge.
Also worthy of note is Century 66 - a restaurant attended and staffed by many members of the scene with a futuristic and dark decor, and the location of many events, including
Brian Eno
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's
Thursday Afternoon
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installation in December of 1984.
Emergence of Goth beginning 1988
It was 1988 that "Goth" arrived in Toronto. The term "Goth" began to be used to refer to those "freaks" who centred on
Gothic fashion
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and
Gothic rock. Elsewhere, merely being a fan of
Gothic rock would generally define an individual as a "Goth",
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www.dictionary.com but this was not the case in Toronto, where the idea of being "Gothic" was taken very literally; until the mid '90s, the Goths in Toronto considered
Gothic literature
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,
romantic poetry
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,
Gothic fashion
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and
Gothic aesthetics, especially
beauty
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, to be subcultural requirements as well.
Anne Rice
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She was best known for her series of novels ''The Vampire Chronicles''. B ...
,
Edgar Allan Poe
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,
Lord Byron
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,
Bram Stoker
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and other Gothic
romanticist
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authors were extensively read and considered social obligations. A new, darker vampire fashion became the default definition of Torontonian Goth style.
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CTV News Toronto - early 1990s news report
The mid-1980s - 1991 saw the emergence of proto-type gothic bands appeared such as
Vital Sines
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,
Breeding Ground
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,
National Velvet
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Plot summary
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and
The Furies
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.
The year 1989 also saw the opening of a dedicated Gothic fashion store, Siren,
on
Queen Street West
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and by 1998 it eventually became the "world's oldest shop catering to the combined enthusiasms of the overlapping communities devoted to the gothic and vampire genres."
Groovella Blak, who owned Siren, also later founded the Gothic Society of Canada with then husband Morpheus Blak (which exists today as "The Dark Place"). Groovella was Toronto's best known "Goth girl", considered a 'fairy gothmother', and at the height of the Toronto vampire craze in mid-'90s had her canine teeth filed into fangs and always wore black or black with red.
[Liisa Ladouceu]
Lords Of The New Church
''This Magazine'' - May 2005 However, Icewind, the organizer of the Toronto Vampire Meetup Group, stated that obsession with vampire mythology and fashion is simply part of Goth subculture itself and does not make one a vampire, "they're not what we'd call vampires, they just like the culture."
Industrial music became a major additional style popular in the Toronto goth scene;
Skinny Puppy
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a
Vancouver
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-based Industrial band inspired an interest in
animal rights
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in many "Industrial-goths" in Toronto.
Also at this time, bands such as
Depeche Mode
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Depech ...
, although not goth themselves, were very influential in attracting mainstream music followers into the
goth subculture in Toronto.
On September 3, 1992, a bar named "Sanctuary: The Vampire Sex Bar" opened on Queen Street West, in step with the increasing popularity of vampiric-goth archetypes. Sanctuary originally imposed a gothic dress code to strictly adhere to the
gothic fashion
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aspect of the scene.
Sexual activity did not actually occur in the bar.
The book, ''"Tales From Sanctuary: The Vampire Sex Bar"'' (1997) documented tales and anecdotes from Toronto's alleged "vampire" scene.
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Fetish fashion
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type of clothing or accessory, created to be extreme or provocative in a fetishistic manner. These styles are by definition not worn by the majority of people; if everyone wears an ...
had always been associated with the early goth scene having adopted it from the punk scene aesthetics. Leathercraft and later Northbound Leather, both on Yonge Street were key retail outlets for the emergence of fetish culture in Toronto. When it started to gain mass popularity in the Toronto goth scene, many individuals soon equated "Fetish" with "Goth". Similarly pop-culture began to heavily influence the Toronto goths: with
Marilyn Manson
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and
Betty Page
Bettie Mae Page (April 22, 1923 â December 11, 2008) was an American model who gained notoriety in the 1950s for her pin-up photos. being perceived by the public as "goth", and the movie ''
The Crow
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'' showcasing
gothic aesthetics and goth protagonists, more and more Torontonians became interested in being part of the "goth subculture". Although these new emerging movements did not necessarily share the same outlooks as the earlier goths, nor an interest in the same styles of music and fashion, the scene itself flourished with a new emphasis on sexuality.
By the mid 90s, and continuing thereafter, Toronto goths held regular
BDSM
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or goth fetish nights. Costuming was a major aspect of this event. Unlike purist fetishists, goths were more likely to be found laughing or taking turns. Sex and sexuality also played a larger part at goth fetish nights than purist fetishist events.
Increasing mainstream influences

''
Forever Knight
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'' (1992â1996) was an internationally aired television series filmed in and around Toronto about an 800-year-old vampire who becomes a member of the
Metropolitan Toronto Police
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and attempts to regain his humanity. The local references, landmarks and street names intrigued fans as part of a city of vampires.
Canadian fantasy author,
Tanya Huff
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, wrote a series of supernatural detective novels known as the ''
Blood Books
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Bibliography
Wizard Crystal of the Grove series
# ''Child of the Grove'' (1988)
# ''The Last Wizard'' (1989) ''Wizard of the Grove'' (1999) (Omnibus edition of ''C ...
'' between 1991 until present, featuring a fictional historical romance author, Henry Fitzroy, who happens to be a
vampire
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. The series is set in Toronto and uses familiar landmarks. In 2007, this series was adapted for television under the title ''
Blood Ties''.
The
vampire novel
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''The Night Inside'' (1994) referred to
West Queen West as "a crowd of vampire wanna-bes" with "pale faces, black-lined eyes."
In Toronto, the
goth subculture became widespread enough that the media referred to it as "pop-culture", in contrast with the term "cult" that would be applied in later years. In 1998, Johnson Cummins, a music journalist for the ''
Montreal Mirror
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...
'', reported that Toronto had a higher concentration of goths than anywhere else in the world and that anyone walking down Queen Street could not avoid seeing many of them. At this time, Mitch Krol, lead singer of the Toronto-based goth band
Masochistic Religion, became disenchanted with direction of the Toronto scene, calling it shallow, pretentious, primarily concerned with money and glam, and stating that it was no longer goth. Masochistic Religion thereafter relocated to
Montreal
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,
Quebec
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.
School shootings and decline in popularity
In 1999, a
school shooting at Columbine High School in
Littleton, Colorado
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created a public backlash against local goths and especially gothic youths as some teachers and parents suddenly began to view goth fashion with suspicion and mistrust. Violence of any kind had always been very rare at Toronto goth clubs, and notable figures in the goth community spoke to the media against associating violence with "goth". They insisted that the shooters were not goths, did not listen to goth music, and that goths were non-violent and pacifistic.
Certain elements of the media, notably the local entertainment and culture media, also defended goths. ''
Eye Weekly'' columnist Donna Lypchuk wrote, "I've been laughing for the past two weeks as talking heads blame the goth subculture for the killings in Colorado. The mainstream goth movement, which has been around for at least 25 years, is not secret enough to be a subversive society." Five months later a report from authorities in Colorado confirmed that the shooting was not related to goth subculture, and stated that the shooters held goth music in "contempt".
The
Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance
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History of the group and its website
Bruce A. Robinso ...
researched the subculture and published a report with the conclusion that goths are non-violent,
pacifist
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ic, passive and tolerant of others, and that many in the media had incorrectly associated the goth subculture with violence, hatred of minorities,
white supremacy
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, etc. They found that the goth ideology is actually based on recognition, identification and grief over societal and personal evils that the mainstream culture wished to ignore or forget, these being the prevalent themes in goth music.
Regardless of the fact that the Columbine Shooting was not related to goth subculture,
the Toronto goth scene began to decline.
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''Toronto Star
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'' June 21, 2002 Goth bars closed, and goth culture-oriented businesses shut down, including Siren and Sanctuary, which was the longest-running gothic bar as well as the first industrial club in Canada. By mid-2001
goth music
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was no longer in significant demand in Toronto, and consequently night clubs had generally stopped playing it. As the chain reaction continued, live venues stopped booking it. Bands like The Birthday Massacre, Vegasphere, Dream Corrosion, Rhea's Obsession, and Bitter Fall, who were accustomed to playing to full houses, especially when in their hometown, would discover that was no longer the case. Clinging to the idea that the goth subculture was not dying but merely changing, in 2002, local goths tried to revitalize the community by holding events keyed towards introducing older goths to the younger generation.
In 2003 it was reported that where other cities had lost their base of goth and industrial fans, Toronto's scene was holding on, or even growing.
[Sandee Rage]
Sublime City: Toronto's Dark Renaissance
MarsDust Music By 2004 it was reported that local interest in
goth rock
Gothic rock (also called goth rock or simply goth) is a style of rock music that emerged from post-punk in the United Kingdom in the late 1970s. The first post-punk bands which shifted toward dark music with gothic overtones include Siouxsie an ...
was stagnant, and some DJ's advocated a shift towards
cybergoth
Cybergoth is a subculture that derives from elements of goth, raver, rivethead and cyberpunk fashion.
Opinion differs as to whether cybergoth has the requisite complexity to constitute a subculture, with some commentators suggesting that it ...
music. By late 2005, one media outlet was predicting the downfall of the goth scene in Toronto, stating goth had "returned to its sociopathic roots" and advising readers to "bask in the nostalgia while it lasts."
After the
Dawson College shooting
The Dawson College shooting occurred on September 13, 2006, at Dawson College, a CEGEP located in downtown Montreal, Quebec, Canada. The perpetrator, Kimveer Singh Gill, began shooting outside the de Maisonneuve Boulevard entrance to the school ...
on September 13, 2006, the ''
Toronto Sun
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'' criticized goths: describing it as "unbelievable" that in the wake of Dawson, in the nearby City of
London, Ontario
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, goths were organizing to raise money for charity. ''Toronto Sun'' columnist, Michele Mandele advised goths to "stay home" and suggested that goths feel no responsibility to help prevent tragedies such as the shooting at Dawson College.
The Toronto goth scene today (2015-present)
While goth has declined in popularity in Toronto, a loyal following still exists, congregating at clubs such as Nocturne (the former Savage Garden) on Queen Street West for the weekly Black Friday nights and various monthly and other regular events, and The Orb (popularly known by its previous name, The Devil's Cellar), which is in the basement of Celts Pub on Dundas Street West, for the monthly Dracula's Daughter night. A Goth Pub Social event also takes place on a monthly basis at Pauper's Pub on Bloor Street West, and Borderline Plus, a clothing and accessories store on Queen Street West, caters primarily to the goth/industrial scene. Velvet Underground, a stalwart of the alternative scene and once home to weekly live broadcasts by Toronto FM station 102.1 The Edge, closed its doors at the end of August 2015 due to its owner, Liberty Entertainment Group, deciding to focus on its wine bars. The last event was the final night of the 2015 iteration of the Aftermath Festival. Velvet Underground was reopened by a local entertainment group Embrace Presents on February 12, 2016 but as a live music venue.
Subcultural traits
Toronto's goths have been noted for subcultural traits which are not noted for
goth subcultures in general.
Mainstream acceptance
According to
Nancy Kilpatrick
Nancy Kilpatrick is a Canadian author who has written stories in the genres of dark fantasy, horror, mystery, erotic horror, and gothic subculture.
She is most known for her vampire themed works.
Awards
She is the recipient of the Arthur ...
's book, ''The Goth Bible'', goths generally are secretive and goths tend to hide the meaning of goth away from the mainstream. She found that goth is an underground movement and keeping it separate from the mainstream is what keeps it alive. In 1999
Diane Sawyer
Lila Diane Sawyer (; born December 22, 1945) is an American television broadcast journalist known for anchoring major programs on two networks including '' ABC World News Tonight'', ''Good Morning America'', '' 20/20'', and ''Primetime'' newsmag ...
, of the American television show ''
20/20
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'', dubbed goth as "a dark, underground national phenomenon".
However, according to Matthew Didier, founder of The Toronto Ghosts and Hauntings Research Society and regular contributor to the CFRB paranormal radio show "Mind/Shift", speaking of Torontonian goths "They want to be 'professional' and be accepted for their contributions to whatever than shunned. They want to be "The Goth Lawyer" or "The Goth Accountant"... not the scary person in the gutter."
According to ''
Time Out Toronto'', a tourist guide published in 2005, the local goths had a slogan: "Making Toronto a darker place."
This may be consistent with the
multicultural
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nature of Toronto. According to the
United Nations Development Programme
The United Nations Development Programme (UNDP)french: Programme des Nations unies pour le développement, PNUD is a United Nations agency tasked with helping countries eliminate poverty and achieve sustainable economic growth and human dev ...
, Toronto has the second-highest percentage of foreign-born population among world cities.
Multiculturalism
The term multiculturalism has a range of meanings within the contexts of sociology, political philosophy, and colloquial use. In sociology and in everyday usage, it is a synonym for "Pluralism (political theory), ethnic pluralism", with the tw ...
became official policy in Canada in 1971, before any other country in the world.
Rightfully or not, in Toronto, after the
Columbine shooting, goth professionals, also called "Corporate Goths", have often felt as if they had to hide their subcultural identity from the workplace because of the negative stigma associated with goth culture.
Apparently heightened emphasis on fashion
Fashion is widely considered to be part of the
goth subculture, however in Toronto, "goth" was an outgrowth of what was already a very fashion conscious subsection of the "freak" subculture (see
History
History (derived ) is the systematic study and the documentation of the human activity. The time period of event before the History of writing#Inventions of writing, invention of writing systems is considered prehistory. "History" is an umbr ...
), and since then, fashion predominantly tended to define "goth"
in Toronto. The Toronto mainstream culture media reported that fashion was the most appealing facet of the goth scene.
In 1998, Mitch Kroll, lead singer of the, then Toronto-based, goth band, Masochistic Religion, criticized "the people who were calling themselves goth in Toronto" for their shallow over-emphasis on fashion, calling them "glam".
After the
Columbine Massacre
On April 20, 1999, a school shooting and attempted bombing occurred at Columbine High School in Columbine, Colorado, United States. The perpetrators, twelfth grade, 12th grade students Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, murdered 12 students and ...
in 1999 one notable goth club owner in Toronto, Lance Goth, commented to the media that he believed the shooters "weren't the least bit goth. They didn't even dye their hair black."
It is not clear after 1999 whether what remains of Toronto goth subculture, emphasizes fashion more, less, or the same as goth subculture elsewhere.
Historic subcultural events

In 1998, Toronto was host to
Convergence
Convergence may refer to:
Arts and media Literature
*''Convergence'' (book series), edited by Ruth Nanda Anshen
* "Convergence" (comics), two separate story lines published by DC Comics:
**A four-part crossover storyline that united the four Weir ...
IV, an annual North American meeting of net.goths.
Events included:
* Masochistic Religion and DJs Michael Salo and Greg Clow played at the Opera House on August 21, 1998.
*
Faith and the Muse
Faith and the Muse is an American rock band composed of Monica Richards and William Faith. Their music encompasses many genres, from folk music to dark wave, drawing on many sources and influences, notably Dead Can Dance. Richards is the prima ...
,
Rhea's Obsession, the Changelings and My Scarlet Life with DJ Marylace played at the Opera House on August 22.
* An April March and DJs Lady Bathory and Lord Pale played Clinton's on August 23, with the goth/medieval magick sideshow Carnival Xaotika as the added attraction.
List of Toronto goth bands
A number bands that have performed and recorded
goth,
punk
Punk or punks may refer to:
Genres, subculture, and related aspects
* Punk rock, a music genre originating in the 1970s associated with various subgenres
* Punk subculture, a subculture associated with punk rock, or aspects of the subculture s ...
,
post punk
Post-punk (originally called new musick) is a broad music genre, genre of Punk Music, punk music that emerged in the late 1970s as musicians departed from punk's traditional elements and raw simplicity, instead adopting a variety of avant-garde s ...
and
industrial music based out of Toronto.
*
The Birthday Massacre
The Birthday Massacre (abbreviated TBM) is a Canadian rock band , formed in 1999 in London, Ontario, and currently based in Toronto, Ontario. The current lineup consists of lead vocalist Sara 'Chibi' Taylor, rhythm guitarist Michael Rainbow, l ...
*
Rhea's Obsession
*Dream Corrosion
*
Breeding Ground
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*Vegasphere
*
National Velvet
''National Velvet'' is a novel by Enid Bagnold (1889â1981), first published in 1935. It was illustrated by Laurian Jones, Bagnold's daughter, who was born in 1921.
Plot summary
''National Velvet'' is the story of a 14-year-old girl named ...
*
Vampire Beach Babes
*Bitter Fall
*
Vital Sines
Vital Sines was a Canadian post-punk/ new wave band active between 1980 and 1988 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. They are best known for their hit single, ''Collage'', which was recently listed as one of the most influential Canadian alternative roc ...
[Rick Winkle, James Gray and Gord Wilso]
"Vital Sines"
The Canadian Pop Encyclopedia
*
Johnny Hollow
Johnny Hollow is a Canadian electronic music group formed in 2001 in Guelph, Ontario. The band is composed of singer Janine White, digital artist Vincent Marcone, cellist Kitty Thompson, and guitarist Steve Hiehn.
Johnny Hollow is a music/art ...
*Ariel
*Mindless Insurrection
*Parade
*
Walls of Jericho
See also
*
Cleveland Goth
*
Freak scene
"Freak Scene" is a song by American alternative rock band Dinosaur Jr., the opening track on the group's third studio album '' Bug'' (1988). Written and produced by frontman J Mascis, the song was recorded at Fort Apache Studios by engineers Paul ...
*
Culture in Toronto
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Toronto is a business-minded, conscientious, socially progressive, ...
*
Gothic Revival architecture in Canada
Gothic Revival architecture in Canada is an historically influential style, with many prominent examples. The Gothic Revival was imported to Canada from Britain and the United States in the early 19th century, and rose to become the most popular s ...
*
Neo (nightclub)
Neo was a nightclub located at 2350 N. Clark St. in the Chicago neighborhood of Lincoln Park. Established on July 25, 1979 Neo was the oldest or one of the oldest running nightclubs in Chicago and was a hangout and venue for a variety of musician ...
References
External links
Goth Girls 1Satirical video featuring the fate of Sanctuary: Vampire Sex Bar.
StreetSeen Jan 23, 2008 "Goth Style"Canoe.Ca - segment featuring Toronto's goth scene, music from local bands, Minx Clothing, and Club Neutral.
The Lilith Gallery of TorontoToronto-Goth.comâ news and resource for Toronto's goth scene (No longer exists)
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