''The John and Ken Show'' was an American talk radio show, hosted by John Chester Kobylt and Kenneth Robertson Chiampou. The show aired Monday thru Friday, from 1 p.m. to 4 p.m.
Pacific Time on
KFI AM 640, a local
Southern California
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talk radio station. The program was one of the most listened to local talk radio programs in the United States and drew an estimated weekly audience of approximately 1.2 million listeners.
History
Origins in New Jersey
John Kobylt was born to a working class Catholic family in
Paterson, New Jersey
Paterson ( ) is the largest City (New Jersey), city in and the county seat of Passaic County, New Jersey, Passaic County, in the U.S. state of New Jersey.[Seton Hall University
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.
Ken Chiampou, a native of
Brentwood, New York, was a
certified public accountant
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and had graduated from the
University at Buffalo
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, working in corporate audits for a
Big Eight firm.
Both worked in the
Elmira-Corning market in
New York state
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in the late 1980s, Kobylt as a disc jockey at
WENY and Chiampou at the station's cross-town rival
WELM.
Kobylt and Chiampou first worked together in 1988 for a radio station in
Atlantic City, New Jersey
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. According to Kobylt, the show was named "The Odd Couple" by a producer who was the "stupidest man on two legs". Kobylt became program director of
WOND. One of their earliest pranks was while they hosted mornings at 103.7
WMGM. They started a food drive for rival 95.1
WAYV
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's morning DJ Russ Monroe after he was fired a week before Christmas. The pair, as part of the prank, called WAYV live on the air to solicit a donation, which led to a hang up.
In 1990, the pair was offered the afternoon drive slot on the then brand new station
New Jersey 101.5 (WKXW-FM) in the state capitol of
Trenton, New Jersey
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. They gained national notoriety for heavily criticizing New Jersey governor
Jim Florio for passing the largest state tax hike in United States history immediately after taking office. During this period, their ratings quadrupled to 600,000 listeners. Kobylt criticized Florio for reneging on his promise not to raise taxes.
[Russakoff, Dale. "The Gov Whose Time Has Come", '']The Washington Post
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'', April 12, 1993, Page B1.
A caller, postal worker John Budzash, then suggested the idea of ''Hands Across New Jersey'', a protest that would symbolically cut the state in half. When other callers noted that blocking traffic was illegal, the movement turned into a rally in front of the State House in Trenton.
A State Police officer told Budzash, who reported to the crowd from onstage, that approximately 65,000 people attended the event while another 100,000 people were turned away for lack of parking and because of crowded conditions. It was the largest rally ever held in New Jersey.
Kobylt and Chiampou both attended the rally and spoke passionately about Hands Across New Jersey, better government, and lower taxes and they encouraged people to stand up and fight back for a better New Jersey. Florio lost reelection and John and Ken's listenership quadrupled during this period.
Kobylt and Chiampou also campaigned feverishly for the abolition of tolls on the
New Jersey Turnpike
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claiming that cutting government excess expenditures could itself fund highway maintenance. They also lobbied for the opening of
HOV
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lanes to regular traffic.
Move to California
The pair left WKXW in late 1992 to move to
KFI to do their afternoon drive time spot, replacing former
Los Angeles Police Department
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chief
Daryl Gates
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. The hosts began national syndication in 1997, which displeased management at
Cox Communications
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, then the owners of the station. At its peak, 125 stations carried the program. On March 19, 1999, ''The John and Ken Show'' was taken off the air at KFI, allegedly by a vice president in
Atlanta
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over the syndication issue, although the spat was referred to as a "contract dispute". In addition, the hosts themselves were more comfortable with dealing with state and local issues.
Kobylt and Chiampou were replaced by syndicated consumer advocate
Clark Howard from 3 pm to 4 pm followed by
Karel
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and Andrew, the first openly gay couple in weekday talk radio in the country. Kobylt and Chiampou publicly referred to them as "
Siegfried and Roy
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", and constantly berated the show for its low quality and lower ratings compared with their own show. On July 1, 1999, ''The John and Ken Show'' was reborn as a morning drive talk show on crosstown competitor
KABC. The morning show was short-lived as they kept their afternoon show style and brought it to the mornings. Kobylt and Chiampou also had various stunts, one of which got them in trouble and forced them into attending diversity training, which they later said they resented taking, and disliked the
Disney
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management toning down their banter. Due to low ratings and mutual dissatisfaction between the station and the hosts, KABC dropped the show on October 20, 2000.
''The John and Ken Show'' returned to KFI on May 2, 2001, and the hosts regaled listeners with the behind-the-scene problems at KABC before returning to their normal topics. Since then they have remained as a live program; however, some interviews are pre-recorded and replayed between hours, and at times Kobylt or Chiampou will broadcast from their home studios.
Attempted expansions
''John and Ken: Saturdays'' existed from 2006 to 2009. The show covered new material that was otherwise omitted during the week. The hosts did not actually show up to the studio live on Saturday but taped the Saturday edition during the week as time permitted. ''J&K Saturdays'' was syndicated to other stations. The Saturday show was cancelled in September 2009 due to an expansion in their weekday time slot from the cancellation of
Dr. Laura Schlessinger's program. With the hiring of
Bill Carroll.
From September 2009 until July 2010, ''The John and Ken Show'' simulcast the 3 p.m. to 7 p.m. portion of the show on San Francisco, California's
KNEW (AM)-910. It was replaced with
John Gibson.
From January until December 2013, John and Ken hosted on
KFI sister station,
WOR in New York City, from 9 p.m. to 11 p.m. The first hour, from 9 p.m. to 10 p.m. was simulcast from the KFI show, while the 10 p.m. to 11 p.m. hour was live and local for New York City. The show moved from its traditional 3 p.m. to 7 p.m. time slot to 2 p.m. to 6 p.m. as part of a station revamp.
Starting in January 2023, the show was reduced to three hours and moved to the 1 p.m. to 4 p.m. time slot as part of a reshuffle of the entire KFI daily lineup.
On the November 13th 2023 broadcast, Ken Chaimpou announced he would be retiring and broadcast for the last time on December 6, and that John Kobylt will take over as a solo show on December 12.
Awards
On March 4, 2006, Kobylt and Chiampou won the ''
Radio & Records
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News/Talk Local Personality of the Year'' award, sharing the honor with
KGO radio host
Ronn Owens. Chiampou, accepting the award on behalf of the pair, mischievously thanked
Antonio Villaraigosa,
Stanley Tookie Williams,
David Dreier, L.A. Archbishop Cardinal
Roger Mahony,
Robert Blake,
Michael D. Brown, and
Armando Garcia for providing the material that made the program possible. They were also nominated for the 2006
National Association of Broadcasters
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Marconi Award.
The duo was named one of the 100 most influential people in Southern California by the ''
Los Angeles Times
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'' in 2006.
Political and social activism
2003 recall
In 2003, Kobylt and Chiampou were instrumental in the
recall of California Governor
Gray Davis. Davis, who was derisively called ''
Gumby
Gumby and Pokey figures
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'' on the show for his shifting positions on issues, was criticized on a daily basis for the state's budget deficit, signing a bill that would give drivers' licenses to illegal immigrants, increasing the state's car licensing fee, offering large concessions to state employee
labor unions
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, and for his alleged role in creating the
California electricity crisis
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. The hosts regularly had recall petition gatherers on the air and almost immediately threw their support to
Arnold Schwarzenegger
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when he announced he would run for governor. On October 6, 2003, as part of the fallout from Schwarzenegger's scandals, the hosts read information from the Los Angeles Superior Court, purporting that one of the key accusers against Schwarzenegger had a long criminal record. In fact, the information retrieved was about an individual who had nothing to do with the scandal, and the pointers to the information were provided by a Schwarzenegger assistant. The hosts apologized on October 8, after the election.
Increasingly, after Schwarzenegger's 2006 re-election, Kobylt and Chiampou criticized several of his policies, as Schwarzenegger moved to the center following the election. The tirades culminated with an image of Schwarzenegger's head on a sword after the governor signed the largest state tax increase in United States history (eclipsing the New Jersey increase).
Illegal immigration
In the run-up to the 2004 elections, their main issue was fighting what they saw as misguided policies of the federal and
California
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state governments to encourage
illegal immigration
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. They devised a "competition" that they dubbed ''Political Human Sacrifice'', in which five
Republican Representatives from California were grilled regarding their stance on illegal immigration. The "winner" would be the Representative whom the show's listeners saw as the ''worst'' on illegal immigration restriction; Kobylt and Chiampou would endorse his or her opponent in the general election and urge listeners to vote for the opponent. ''Political Human Sacrifice'' was conducted in a fashion similar to
reality television
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series such as ''
Survivor
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''.
U.S. Representative
David Dreier won the nomination as the "victim" of the "sacrifice". Kobylt and Chiampou also designated a
Democratic Congressman,
Joe Baca, to be "sacrificed" in the general election. The comments about Dreier resulted in a complaint to the
Federal Election Commission
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being filed by the
National Republican Congressional Committee
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The NRCC was formed in 1866, when the Repub ...
, which was rejected by the FEC on March 17, 2006. Both Dreier and Baca won reelection. On the other hand, Baca appeared to have been unaffected as he garnered 66.4% of the vote in 2004, exactly the same percentage as his 2002 vote.
On May 2, 2005,
KTLA
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entertainment reporter Sam Rubin made comments alleging that Kobylt employed an illegal immigrant. Kobylt demanded that Rubin apologize on his program for making this allegation without any basis in fact, and later Kobylt's wife called in to berate Rubin for making the statements. Rubin later apologized and retracted the statements on the
KTLA
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5 Morning News, as well as on ''The John & Ken Show''.
Kobylt and Chiampou often do various stunts in regards to their topics. When Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa said to a group of illegal alien supporters "We clean your toilets", the duo urged their listeners to send toilet brushes to the mayor's office, of which thousands were received. Other jokes include taking Cardinal Roger Mahony's words of, "So Disappointed," whenever the duo are talking about illegal immigration.
In September 2011, Kobylt and Chiampou expressed opposition to the California Dream Act, a bill that would extend financial aid to immigrants regardless of their legal status. As part of their opposition, they broadcast the cellular number of a spokesperson for the
Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles (CHIRLA). The spokesperson received several hundred phone calls from irate listeners, some of which expressed threats towards the spokesperson. CHIRLA said that the phone number was a private number, although the number was listed on the press release for the event. Subsequent to this, CHIRLA has called for the cancellation of ''The John and Ken Show'', which KFI has resisted. Observers such as
Gustavo Arellano
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have said that the show targets Mexicans specifically, in contrast to other KFI hosts such as
Bill Handel that make light of all races, a charge the hosts deny. Kobylt apologized on
KMEX-TV to Cabrera for the behavior of their listeners.
Sex offenders
When
Long Beach
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, California residents protested the presence of several paroled
registered sex offenders living in one apartment complex, Kobylt and Chiampou hosted a remote broadcast near the complex on February 19, 2008. Fueled by this story, on March 11, 2008, and approved with a required second vote on March 18, 2008, Long Beach City Council members voted 7–0 to enact 18 ordinances heavily restricting the residency and recreational activity of all registered sex offenders.
Whitney Houston
In February 2012, John and Ken were suspended for making disparaging comments in reference to
Whitney Houston
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. While speculating on
Clive Davis
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From 1967 to 1 ...
's reaction to Houston's death, Kobylt imagined Davis calling her a 'crack ho' and making other derogatory comments on Houston's alleged drug use and mental state.
This caused a stir in media circles and in the African-American community as racially insensitive reference to the recently dead singer. They were suspended for seven days "for making insensitive and inappropriate comments about the late Whitney Houston." John Kobylt later said, "We made a mistake, and we accept the station's decision. We used language that was inappropriate, and we sincerely apologize to our listeners and to the family of Ms. Houston." Many in the Los Angeles radio market came to John and Ken's defense including
KROQ
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The sta ...
's
Kevin and Bean who used an entire segment of their February 17, 2012, show to discuss the duo's suspension and the current overall state of political correctness within talk radio.
Format
The show is generally broadcast directly from the studios of KFI, with guests usually appearing on the show via telephone. There are occasional remote broadcasts to the site of news or to various political rallies. Also, KFI news reporters come on the show and expand on stories aired in the newscasts. The 5 p.m. hour is the most listened to hour of the show and is sometimes themed.
Recurring features of the show include Chiampou's Friday movie review, where he grades one movie released that week on a 1-10 scale, with 10 being highest; the "Moist Line", which plays edited listener comments on a voice mail line; and ''Hack in a Dumpster'' which is a homage to
2014 Ukraine revolution in metaphorically disposing of a public figure which the hosts disagree with. Other features include ''The John & Ken Health and Science Desk'', covering medical news; ''Execution Desk'', covering news on the
death penalty
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; and ''Naked Desk'', with news stories involving people who are nude.
One regular segment that does accept significant caller participation is ''The Hour of Rage'', where callers rant either about a topic selected by the host or do freeform rants. However, it is common for an entire show to pass without a call being taken from a listener.
Kobylt and Chiampou were active during David Westerfield's trial for the
Murder of Danielle van Dam. Kobylt shouted, "Hey, Westerfield, are you in there? Did you kill Danielle?". Kobylt also tossed broccoli at "vegetable head" jurors, who were not convicting Westerfield swiftly enough in his opinion.
Political views
The hosts eschew any party labels or loyalties, and were not politically involved prior to their experience in New Jersey. Kobylt has indicated that his role is "to identify who the bad guy is and what the bad act is so that people feel it viscerally... pointing out how they were screwed in some way."
Mostly fiscally conservative on issues like taxes, they also frequently lean
conservative
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with regard to crime.
[Bailey, Eric. ''State budget talks marked by secrecy''. ''Los Angeles Times''. Los Angeles, Calif.: Feb 11, 2009. pg. B.3]
Personal lives
Kobylt's wife, Deborah Zara, is a journalist and podcast host, and former TV news correspondent. Chiampou is unmarried, with no children.
References
External links
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