Post-no wave is a form of

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music that emerged from, or drew its inspiration from, the

no wave No wave was an avant-garde music genre and visual art scene that emerged in the late 1970s in Downtown New York City. The term was a pun based on the rejection of commercial new wave music. Reacting against punk rock's recycling of rock and r ...

scene. It's considered to have arisen after the disintegration of the original scene in 1980, expanding beyond its

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boundaries. It further differs from no wave by exploring new music genres, making use of modern technology and studio techniques, embracing

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idioms, a greater rhythmic complexity or a tongue-in-cheek nihilistic humor. As a result, post-no wave usually fuses the angular and deconstructive approach of its predecessor with a more song-oriented sound. Significant examples of post-no wave bands can be found in the works from former scenesters and new acts that were shaped by no wave in the 1980s —like Rat at Rat R,

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and

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—, the ephemeral

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scene in the 1990s and a nebula of scattered artists since the 2000s —such as

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, Talk Normal, Liars and Gilla Band—.

History

Shortly after the recording of ''

No New York ''No New York'' is a no wave compilation album released in 1978 by record label Antilles under the curation of producer Brian Eno. Although it only contains songs by four different artists, it has been considered important in defining and docu ...

'' in 1978, no wave, as an avant-garde movement and music scene, started disintegrating.

The Gynecologists The Gynecologists were a no wave band based in SoHo, Manhattan. The band was founded in 1976 by composer Rhys Chatham and artist Robert Appleton.Masters 117. Chatham was originally inspired to start a band when composer Peter Gordon took him to ...

disbanded in 1978,

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followed between 1978/1979,

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in 1979, Theoretical Girls in 1981,

James Chance and the Contortions James Chance and the Contortions (initially known simply as Contortions, a spin-off group is called James White and the Blacks) was a musical group led by saxophonist and vocalist James Chance, formed in 1977. They were a central act of New York ...

in 1981 and

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in 1982. Several key artists then focused on non-musical projects or delved into more accessible rock genres.

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went on a solo career as a

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act,

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and

Glenn Branca Glenn Branca (October 6, 1948 – May 13, 2018) was an American avant-garde music, avant-garde composer, guitarist, and luthier. Known for his use of volume, scordatura, alternative guitar tunings, minimal music, repetition, drone (music), dronin ...

developed totalism in electric guitar ensembles,

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embarked on

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and

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collaborations; others, such as Ut,

The Lounge Lizards The Lounge Lizards were an eclectic No Wave musical group founded by saxophonist John Lurie and his brother, pianist Evan Lurie, in 1978. Initially known for their ironic, tongue-in-cheek take on jazz, The Lounge Lizards eventually became a show ...

and Mofungo, continued playing until the 1990s, but far removed from their no wave roots. During this period, posthumous studio recordings and VV.AA. compilations from the scene were published for the first time, contributing to its underground popularity. While new generations of musicians outside the scene and from all around the world had been influenced by no-wave music, played with former scenesters —for instance, members from Sonic Youth and Swans played in Chatham's and Branca's ensembles— or claimed to be its successors. Thus, no longer a scene or a movement, a post-no wave came into existence. Although other expressions have been used to describe this kind of music (second wave of no wave or no wave revival), Marc Masters helped popularize the term post-no wave in the 2000s, following its coinage in the 1990s

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* Coldwave *

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** Neoclassical *

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Indie pop Indie pop (also typeset as indie-pop or indiepop) is a music genre and subculture that combines guitar pop with a DIY ethic in opposition to the style and tone of mainstream pop music. It originated from British post-punk in the late 1970s and s ...

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New Pop New pop is a British-centric pop music movement consisting of ambitious, DIY-minded artists who achieved commercial success in the early 1980s, aided by platforms like MTV. Rooted in the post-punk movement of the late 1970s, the movement encomp ...

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No wave No wave was an avant-garde music genre and visual art scene that emerged in the late 1970s in Downtown New York City. The term was a pun based on the rejection of commercial new wave music. Reacting against punk rock's recycling of rock and r ...

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Sophisti-pop Sophisti-pop is a pop music subgenre that developed during the mid-1980s out of the British new wave era. It originated with acts who blended elements of jazz, soul, and pop with lavish production. The term "sophisti-pop" was coined only afte ...

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