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Emos vs. Punks were multiple confrontations that occurred in 2008 in Mexico between emos and groups (mainly
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). The emo movement emerged in Mexico in the early 2000s. It was influenced by the international subculture of the United States and
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music, known for its emotionally expressive lyrics. Fashion drew inspiration from
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styles, including skinny jeans and men wearing make-up, both uncommon in the country at that time. In Mexico City, emos first gathered at the Tianguis Cultural del Chopo, a flea market known for hosting various underground subcultures, including punk and heavy metal communities. As the movement became mainstream in the country, mainly among teenagers and young adults, groups formed, which claimed that emos were appropriating and imitating their subcultures. Harassment from groups escalated over time, with some even calling for the
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of emos. In Mexico City, the groups expelled emos from El Chopo market, prompting them to regroup at the Glorieta de los Insurgentes traffic circle, at the clandestine club Los Sillones. In March 2008, a group of emos was attacked in the capital city of
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. Alleging that the emos were attempting to expand and appropriate more zones in Mexico City, groups organized a confrontation at the traffic circle on 16 March 2008 via
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s. Police officers partially controlled the mob, but the unrest resumed a few hours later. It was not until members of the
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intervened and diverted the attention from both groups that the brawl ended. In the following weeks, emo groups held demonstrations in Mexico City, calling for respect and tolerance. Subsequently, the emo movement in Mexico declined, as many individuals either abandoned the identity or integrated into other subcultures.


Emo subculture in Mexico

The emo subculture emerged in Mexico around 2001.
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s, like
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, hi5, and Metroflog, were gaining popularity among teenagers and young adults. Musically, international rock groups like
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, and
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, as well as local bands like
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and
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, surged or became popular. Emo lyrics typically focused on personal emotions and introspection, differing from the politically and socially charged themes found in
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. The associated fashion embraced
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styles, including skinny jeans, makeup, and the signature emo hairstyle with long
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covering one eye. Over time, emo fashion became more widespread, and isolated groups became mainstream. In Mexico City, some members gathered at the Tianguis Cultural del Chopo, a street
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known for hosting a variety of underground scenes, including
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,
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, metalheads,
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s, among others.


Anti-emo groups

The emo subculture faced backlash from members of other youth scenes, who perceived it as a parody or superficial imitation of their own identities. Emos were perceived as emotionally fragile and inauthentic, adopting the style solely for aesthetic reasons.
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, a host on TeleHit—a
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—dismissed the subculture as a trend for "15-year-old little girls", adding that "There isn't a movement here. There isn't a unified manner of thinking, there ren'tmusicians. You have confused
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, punk and
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and you have grouped all the ideas of these scenes, just to give significance to your stupid bullshit movement." Emos were constantly harassed at El Chopo market, prompting them to relocate to the Glorieta de los Insurgentes, a traffic
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along Avenida de los Insurgentes, in the clandestine club Los Sillones. Punks interpreted this move as an attempt by emos to expand their presence. groups surged in the country, and tensions rose among punks and metalheads, who viewed emos as a threat to their subcultural values and code. Fernanda Guzmán said on
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that stereotypes surrounding emotional behavior and fashion may have contributed to a bullying culture, primarily because emos were perceived as effeminate. This opinion conflicted with Mexico's widespread culture of
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and
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, in contrast to punks and metalheads, whereas punks and metalheads were associated with more traditionally masculine traits. sentiment grew hostile, with incidents of emos getting their bangs cut and the spread of slogans such as ("Make a homeland and kill an emo"). Online anti-emo groups emerged, including Movimiento Anti Emosexual and Anti Emo Death Squad, the latter hosted on
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.


Confrontations

On 7 March 2008, around 800 people gathered in
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to attack emos. The movement, driven by online groups and email chain letters, targeted those who rejected the "emo look and attitude". The crowd assaulted three teenagers in a city plaza, punching and kicking them. Police arrested 28 people. The following week, on the afternoon of 16 March, anti-emos groups gathered at the Glorieta de los Insurgentes to attack emos at Los Sillones. The two groups exchanged verbal confrontations, but quickly escalated to physical violence with belts. City police intervened to separate both groups, but a few hours later, the brawl resumed. It was only deescalated when members of the
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—who regularly sang at the traffic circle on Saturdays—invited both sides to join them in singing. In
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, emos were warned not to attend the city's fair the following month. In , further clashes between emos and anti-emos occurred in
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.


Aftermath and legacy

Emo groups held demonstrations in several cities, requesting respect. In Mexico City, they attempted to return to the El Chopo market, but were blocked by groups. In the following years, the emo scene dwindled, with Guzmán attributing it to teenagers aging out of the subculture or merging into others while continuing their search for identity. The events were referenced in an episode of '' La rosa de Guadalupe''. Seventeen years after the conflict at Glorieta de los Insurgentes, a peaceful commemorative march took place in 2025, concluding at the roundabout, where participants staged a symbolic mock street fight.


See also

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References


External links


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