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formed in
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in 1965. The band achieved several
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hits throughout the latter half of the 1960s, including "
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" (1965), " You Baby" (1966), " Happy Together" (1967), "
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" (1967), "
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" (1968), and "
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" (1969), with "Happy Together" reaching number one on the ''Billboard'' Hot 100. The group orignally comprised of lead vocalist
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, backing vocalist
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, lead guitarist Al Nichol, rhythm guitarist Jim Tucker, bassist Chuck Portz, and drummer Don Murray, with subsequent members being bassists
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and
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, and drummers
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,
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, and
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. As the Turtles' commercial success waned by the end of the 1960s, they became plagued with management problems, lawsuits and conflicts with their label,
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, leading the group to break up in 1970. Kaylan and Volman (alongside Pons) then joined
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's band,
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, where, for contractual reasons, they performed under the name
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(Volman as "Flo", Kaylan as "Eddie"). After leaving Zappa at the end of 1971, Kaylan and Volman continued to perform under the Flo & Eddie name, becoming popular as a
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act, and also went onto long-lasting success as
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s for artists including
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,
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, and
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. In 1983, Kaylan and Volman began touring as The Turtles featuring Flo & Eddie. Kaylan ceased touring in 2018, while Volman continues to tour with the Turtles, with
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(previously of
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) replacing Kaylan.


History


1963–1966: Formation, initial success and first personnel changes


The Nightriders, the Crossfires and the Tyrtles

In early 1963, New Yorker
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and Californian
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attended the same school, Westchester High in
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(Kaylan had moved from
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as a child). The two sang in the school's a cappella choir, where Volman soon heard about Kaylan's instrumental
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band, the Nightriders, which included Kaylan on saxophone and choir members Al Nichol on lead guitar, Don Murray on drums and Chuck Portz on bass. Volman joined the group as a saxophonist, just before the group changed its name to the Crossfires in the same year. After high school graduation, the band continued on while its members attended area colleges, picking up rhythm guitarist Jim Tucker as a sixth member along the way. They released a single, "Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde" b/w "Fiberglass Jungle", on the local "Capco Records" label, always in 1963. With the help of
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and
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DJ and club owner Reb Foster, the Crossfires signed to the newly formed
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. Adhering to the prevailing musical trend, the group rebranded itself as a
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band under the name the Tyrtles, an intentionally stylized misspelling inspired by
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and
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. However, the trendy spelling did not survive long, and they had to name themselves the Turtles. Because of the stylistic change from "Surf music" to "Folk rock", Kaylan and Volman dropped the saxophones to become the band's vocalists. Kaylan became the group's lead singer, and keyboardist (although he would give up most of the keyboard parts to Nichol in their hits). Volman began to harmonize with Kaylan's lead singing becoming a third guitarist, as well as a percussionist, for the band.


"It Ain't Me Babe" and "You Baby"

As with the Byrds, the Turtles achieved breakthrough success with a cover of a
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song. "
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" reached the ''Billboard'' Top 10 in the late summer of 1965, and was the title track of the band's first album. " Let Me Be", their second single, reached the Top 30, and " You Baby" charted in the Top 20 in early 1966. "You Baby", with its intricate vocal harmonies and upbeat tempo, was influential in the band's sound as it departed from the political, Byrds-type folk rock; the band's new sound ranged from
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to straightforward
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. '' You Baby'', the band's second album, failed to reach ''
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''s
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chart, and of several singles released in 1966, " Grim Reaper of Love" and "Can I Get to Know You Better" barely entered the ''Billboard'' Hot 100. One single, the tough "
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", written by
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, did not chart. In 1966, the Turtles made an appearance in
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's film ''
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'', singing "She'll Come Back" on screen. In early 1966, drummer Don Murray and bassist Chuck Portz quit the group. Murray was replaced by
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for a few months, before
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became the band's new drummer in late 1966. Portz was replaced by
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on bass.


1966–1968: Peak years


"Happy Together"

" Happy Together", the first of several key Turtles singles co-written by Garry Bonner and Alan Gordon, had been rejected by countless performers. "Happy Together", both their biggest hit and their signature song, signaled a turning point for both the Turtles and for Chip Douglas, who provided the arrangement. The single replaced the Beatles' "
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" at number one on the ''Billboard'' Hot 100 in the spring of 1967. The Turtles' only No. 1 remained there for three weeks. An album of the same name followed and peaked at No. 25. "Happy Together" reached No. 12 on the UK Singles Chart. This same year saw the Turtles performing the title song (composed by
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with lyrics by
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) for the
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''
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''. Impressed by Chip Douglas's studio arrangements,
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approached him after a Turtles show at the
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and invited him to become
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' producer as that band wanted to break out of their "manufactured" studio mold. Douglas accepted and left the Turtles, producing the Monkees' next three albums: ''
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''; '' Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn & Jones Ltd.'' (both 1967); and ''
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'' (1968), the last of which he co-produced with the band. Meanwhile, the Turtles continued with new bassist
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replacing Douglas.


"She'd Rather Be with Me", "You Know What I Mean" and "She's My Girl"

Other hits, all written by Gordon/Bonner, followed "Happy Together", making 1967 a lucrative year for the Turtles. A follow-up, the brassy "
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", reached No. 3 on the US charts in late spring and actually out-charted "Happy Together" overseas, reaching No. 4 in the UK. Two successive Top 15 songs followed: " You Know What I Mean" and "
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". Both 45s showed a psychedelic side in the band's style. During that year, the band released two albums, '' Happy Together'' and '' Golden Hits'', the former reaching the Top 30 and the latter reaching the Top 10. The similar album covers for ''Golden Hits'' and its 1970 companion '' More Golden Hits'' were designed by
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of
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. By the end of 1967 the band were reduced to a five-piece, when rhythm guitarist Jim Tucker departed, citing the pressure of touring and recording new material. He moved to Grass Valley, California where he became an electrical contractor. He has denied that he left the band because
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was rude to him, as Kaylan later suggested.


''The Turtles Present the Battle of the Bands''

"Sound Asleep" and "The Story of Rock and Roll", the first two singles in 1968, stalled somewhere in the middle of the Top 100. The band's fortunes changed when former member Chip Douglas returned to work with them as a producer. Late in 1968 the band released a
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called ''
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'', in which the group pretended to be 11 different bands (with fanciful names including the Bigg Brothers, Nature's Children, the US Teens featuring Raoul, and the Fabulous Dawgs), each with a song in a different genre. The album yielded two singles: "
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" and "
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", both peaking at No. 6. "Elenore" also reached No. 7 in the UK chart. Although both singles were successful, they did not help to boost the album's sales, which peaked at No. 128 on the ''Billboard'' Pop Albums. The 1969 hit "You Showed Me" had been written by the Byrds'
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and Roger (then Jim) McGuinn in 1964. It was their last Top 10 single. Television appearances included a February 1968 spot on ''
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'', to which they returned in April 1969. 1969 saw the band undergo another personnel change, with drummer John Barbata being replaced by
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.


1969–1970: Commercial waning and break-up


''Turtle Soup''

Towards the end of 1969, the group released its next album, ''
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'', a critically well-received LP produced by
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of
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. Inspired by the revered 1968 concept album ''
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'', this was Davies's only released production work for another band (but Davies had previously produced demo recordings for
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). Notable tracks include "Somewhere Friday Nite" and "Love in the City". In spite of ''Turtle Soup''s positive reception from the music press, its commercial success was marginal, and the band began to disintegrate.


Conflicts with White Whale and disintegration

Long disillusioned with their record label and its growing financial problems by this time, Kaylan and Volman resisted White Whale's efforts to turn the Turtles into something approaching an assembly-line pop act, like the early Monkees. The label apparently encouraged Kaylan and Volman to fire the rest of the band, tour with hired musicians and make records by adding their vocals to backing tracks recorded by Memphis session players. Such pressure convinced the band to record a single called "Who Would Ever Think That I Would Marry Margaret?", which they disowned after its release. The Turtles wound down their career in 1970 with ''More Golden Hits'', a second compilation album, and '' Wooden Head'', a
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and rarities album. With the demise of the Turtles, White Whale Records lost its biggest moneymaker, had few commercially viable bands, and soon ceased operations.


Post-Turtles


1970s

In mid-1970, Kaylan and Volman joined
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's band
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, with Pons also joining in early 1971. As well as the Turtles' name, Kaylan and Volman were unable to use their real names in billings due to them being prohibited by their contract with their label
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. Because of this, Volman and Kaylan began performing under the nicknames the Phlorescent Leech & Eddie or
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for short. Kaylan, Volman, and Pons worked with Zappa until December 1971, when the infamous attack on Zappa at the Rainbow Theatre in London left him no choice but to cease touring for a while. During their time together the former Turtles appeared on several Zappa albums, as well as starring in his 1971 film ''
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''. Volman and Kaylan then went on to make several duo albums, still using the Flo & Eddie name. Volman and Kaylan sang backing vocals on several recordings by the band T. Rex, including their worldwide 1971 hit " Get It On (Bang a Gong)" and the albums ''
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'' and ''
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''. When White Whale's master recordings were sold at auction in 1974, the duo won the Turtles' masters, making them the owners of their own recorded work. They promptly licensed the tracks to
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, which issued them as a compilation album titled ''Happy Together Again''. In the mid-1970s, Volman and Kaylan started their syndicated radio show titled ''Flo & Eddie by the Fireside'', which originated from KMET in Los Angeles.


1980s

In the 1980s, the duo began hosting their radio show on
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in Los Angeles and WXRK in New York City and recorded soundtrack music for children's shows like the ''
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''. In 1980, Flo and Eddie performed backing vocals on
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's ''
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'' and sang backup on
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" from his album '' The River''. 1982 saw the re-release of the Turtles' original albums through
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. In 1983, they also contributed backing vocals to the self-titled debut album of British New wave band
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, produced by
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and released by
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. Also in 1983, Howard Kaylan appeared in the comedy film ''
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'', starring
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and Daniel Stern: Kaylan played the part of Captain Cloud, a spiritual guru, leader of a caravan of time-lost
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s. In the same year, Kaylan and Volman legally regained the use of "the Turtles" name and began touring as the Turtles Featuring Flo and Eddie; instead of trying to reunite with their earlier bandmates, they began featuring sidemen who had played with different groups. In 1984, the Turtles embarked on a U.S. Happy Together tour with
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,
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and
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. In 1987, Kaylan and Volman appeared in a music video of their 1967 song " Happy Together" to promote the romantic comedy '' Making Mr. Right''. That year also saw the debut of the previously unreleased ''Shell Shock'' album, as well as a new retrospective CD ''20 Greatest Hits'', both released by Rhino. The latter compilation was followed in 1988 with ''Turtle Wax: The Best of the Turtles, Vol. 2'', which featured the best of their "album tracks" and previously neglected single B-sides. The 1989 debut album by
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combo
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, ''
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'', featured a tape loop repeating the first 11–12 seconds of the Turtles song "
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" in the short album-filler skit "Transmitting Live from Mars", with some percussion and a sampled
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lesson added by De La Soul's producer Prince Paul. Kaylan and Volman sued for copyright damages in 1989, demanding $2.5 million but settling out of court in 1991 for $1.7 million. This established a legal precedent, causing the music industry to begin carefully crediting (and paying royalties for) sampled works on future rap music and other recordings in general.


1990s

In 1991 Music Club Records released a Turtles' anthology in the United Kingdom: ''Happy Together: The Best of the Turtles''. In 1993, Rhino Records presented ''Captured Live'', a live album of their 1992 tour. In 1994
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re-released all of the Turtles' original albums, and in 1999
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released ''Happy Together: The Best of White Whale Records'', which included many of the Turtles' singles. Original drummer Don Murray died on March 22, 1996, at the age of 50.


2000s

In 2002, the film ''
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'' used their song "Happy Together" extensively as a device to portray the closeness of the two brothers Kaufman, both played by
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; this film closes with the Turtles' version over the final credit scroll and time lapse photography. Also the 2005 film ''
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'', the title of which was taken from the first line of the song "Happy Together", used this song in its end credits. In 2009, a Turtles compilation CD titled ''Save the Turtles: The Turtles Greatest Hits'' was issued on their FloEdCo Record label and distributed by
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.


2010s

Starting in the summer of 2010, the Turtles Featuring Flo & Eddie toured throughout the United States as part of the Happy Together: 25th Anniversary Tour, an
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concert series that retained the "Happy Together" moniker in subsequent years. They performed alongside other 1960s and 1970s pop stars, including
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,
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,
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, Gary Lewis, and
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. The 2015 tour featured
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,
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, and
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. In 2016, the complete output of the Turtles was reissued as two box sets, titled ''The Complete Original Album Collection'' and ''All the Singles''. The expanded editions of the six albums contained in the former were issued separately in 2017. In 2018, since Kaylan required heart and back surgery, he was told by his doctors to cease touring, so
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(a prolific session musician of
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and
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fame) replaced him.


2020s

Original rhythm guitarist Jim Tucker died on November 12, 2020, at the age of 74. Drummer John Barbata died on May 8, 2024, at the age of 79.


Personnel


Current members

*
Mark Volman Mark Randall Volman (born April 19, 1947) is an American vocalist, guitarist, and songwriter, best known as a founding member of the 1960s rock band The Turtles, and, along with his bandmate and friend Howard Kaylan, a member of the 1970s rock ...
 – harmony and backing vocals, guitar, percussion *
Ron Dante Carmine John Granito (born August 22, 1945), known professionally as Ron Dante, is an American singing, singer, songwriter, Session musician, session vocalist, and record producer. Dante is best known as the real life lead singer of the fiction ...
 – lead vocals, guitar


Former members

*
Howard Kaylan Howard Kaylan (born Howard Lawrence Kaplan; June 22, 1947) is an American retired musician and songwriter, who was a founding member and lead singer of the 1960s rock band The Turtles, and, with bandmate and friend Mark Volman, a member of the 1 ...
 – lead vocals, keyboards * Al Nichol – lead guitar, keyboards, backing vocals * Jim Tucker – acoustic and electric rhythm guitars, backing vocals * Chuck Portz – bass guitar * Don Murray – drums *
Chip Douglas Douglas Farthing Hatlelid (born August 27, 1942), better known as Chip Douglas, is an American songwriter, musician (bass, guitar and keyboards), and record producer, whose most famous work was during the 1960s. He was the bassist of the Turtl ...
 – bass guitar, backing vocals *
Joel Larson Joel Larson (born April 29, 1947) is an American rock drummer and percussionist who is known as a founding member of The Merry-Go-Round and for being associated with the Turtles and the Grass Roots. Early life He lived near Lincoln Park unt ...
 – drums *
John Barbata John Barbata (April 1, 1945 – May 8, 2024) was an American drummer who was active especially in pop and rock bands in the 1960s and 1970s, both as a band member and as a session drummer. Barbata served as the drummer for The Turtles, Crosby, ...
 – drums, percussion *
Jim Pons Jim Pons (born March 14, 1943) is an American bassist, author, singer, and video director who most notably played for the Leaves (1964–1967), the Turtles (1967–1970), and the Mothers of Invention (1970–1971), and Flo & Eddie (1971-1973). A ...
 – bass guitar, backing vocals *
John Seiter John Seiter (born August 17, 1944) is an American musician. He is best known for his work as a drummer for Spanky and Our Gang and The Turtles. Biography Seiter first rose to prominence as a member of the pop group Spanky and Our Gang. He join ...
 – drums


Timeline (Original incarnation of the band, 1965–1970)


Discography

* ''
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'' (1965) * '' You Baby'' (1966) * '' Happy Together'' (1967) * '' Golden Hits'' (1967) * ''
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'' (1968) * ''
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'' (1969) * '' More Golden Hits'' (1970) * '' Wooden Head'' (1970)


See also

*


References


External links

* {{DEFAULTSORT:Turtles, The Folk rock groups from California American pop music groups Musical groups established in 1965 Musical groups disestablished in 1970 Musical groups reestablished in 2010 Musical groups from Los Angeles Psychedelic pop music groups White Whale Records artists Sundazed Music artists 1965 establishments in California