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Agathocles is a Belgian
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band. Founded in 1985, it is mainly known for producing a large quantity of split seven-inch EPs. They play a style of grindcore they have dubbed "mincecore". Their lyrical themes have focused on
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, animal liberation and
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. All of its members are
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. Their lineup has changed numerous times since they first started, the only consistent member being Jan Frederickx (also known as Jan AG).


Biography


1980s

Agathocles was formed in the Belgian city of Mol, aspiring to sound like bands such as
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and
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. Its original members, Jan and Erwin, were involved in the underground
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scene since the start of the decade, releasing compilation tapes and
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. Only a few of their rehearsal tapes survive from 1984, their first year playing together, mainly as appearances on compilations. Agathocles began playing concerts in 1985, although audiences were still small for the type of extreme music they produced. They had an on-air interview on the local radio station that year. By 1987, the band's line-up had begun to settle, albeit temporarily, in the form of Jan, Ronny and Erwin. They also found a long-term rehearsal space—Jam, a youth club in Mol—where they would not receive complaints or be ejected, as had happened in previous rehearsal rooms. They recorded more compilation tracks, organised more small concerts, and played gigs with other bands who would become equally famous, such as
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and Pestilence (and later
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, as well as smaller bands such as Violent Mosquitos and Total Mosh Project). The first Agathocles releases were issued in 1988, which saw the arrival of a split EP with Riek Boois, as well as their first solo outing, ''Cabbalic Gnosticism'', both of which were originally on cassette. Other material was recorded at the same time, but not released until later. By this time the band had four members, as Jakke had joined on guitar in December 1986, allowing Jan to concentrate on vocals. Another guitarist, Guy, joined a year later, in 1989, and the split LP with the band Drudge was recorded and released on Deaf Records, as well as several other EPs. Towards the end of the year, the line-up changed yet again, with the bassist, Ronny, leaving the band and guitarist Jakke taking over from him.


1990s

A major line-up change occurred at the beginning of the decade, in May 1990, when Jan got rid of all the other members of the band and found two new members instead - Domingo on guitar and Burt on drums, with Jan now playing bass. Domingo and Burt were both from little-known Belgian grindcore band Necrosis, who recorded only one demo, in 1990. With the new line-up, the band ceased rehearsing in Mol, moving instead to the drummer's home town of Zichem. Several more EPs were released in the same year and, with the band growing in popularity, they played gigs in
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as well as
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and went on a mini tour with the Japanese grindcore band SxOxB. More line-up changes occurred throughout the next few years. Ex-Agathocles drummer Erwin briefly returned in 1991, now playing bass guitar. After only a few months with this line-up, Domingo left the band, leaving the band as a three-piece group during the recording of their ''Agarchy'' EP in July. However, the band soon had four members again when Domingo was replaced by Chris. It was with this line-up that they recorded ''Theatric Symbolisation Of Life'', but towards the end of the year, Erwin left the band again and Agathocles got a new bassist called Dirk. In the summer of 1991, Agathocles also went on another tour, this time in
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, with vocalist Tuur from fellow Belgian mincecore band
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. Tuur did vocals for this tour because guitarist Chris was unable to tour with the band, so Jan had to take over his guitarist duties. The band's line-up changed again in May 1992 when guitarist Chris and bassist Dirk left to form their own band. Agathocles found a new guitarist to take over from Chris - Steve (from Belgian grindcore band Intestinal Disease) - and Jan played bass guitar (as well as doing vocals). Two of the band's LPs (''Cliché?'' and ''Use Your Anger'') were recorded with this new line-up and they also played one gig in
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for the first time in a small town named
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). The band remained a 3-piece group throughout 1993, with the line-up staying consistent as Jan, Burt and Steve. It was with this line-up that Agathocles went on a major
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an tour, visiting Belgium, the
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,
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,
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and the
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, as well as recording several more split EPs. In 1994, the band retained the same line-up, this time touring in
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(in July of that year), where they recorded the ''Mince Mongers In Barna'' EP in the rehearsal room of Spanish mincecore band Violent Headache. The ''Black Clouds Determinate'' CD was also recorded in this year. The line-up stayed the same during the first half of 1995, during which time Agathocles recorded their album ''Razor Sharp Daggers'', as well as featuring on the compilation ''Metalopolis'', which was released by the Belgian radio station
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. In the summer, however, the line-up changed again, with Matty replacing Steve on guitar. This line-up would stay constant through 1996 and for most of 1997, two years in which Agathocles did a lot more touring. This started at the beginning of 1996, when the band visited
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, playing alongside the band ''Radical Noise'', and then they toured the Czech Republic with the mincecore band
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. During this tour, the band recorded a video as a benefit for a Czech
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group. As well as recording the album ''Thanks For Your Hostility'' and several more split EPs, Agathocles also recorded a studio session in 1996 on the radio station Studio Brussel. Another such session was done the year later, this time in the
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studios in
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, where they recorded a
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, in the same way that many other famous grindcore bands have done. 1997 was also the year that the ''Humarrogance'' album was recorded (as well as even more split EPs) and the band also toured in Germany with Swedish band Driller Killer. In November, the line-up changed again, when the band returned to being a four-piece, with Vince joining as the bass guitarist. With this new line-up, the band toured again in Germany with Driller Killer in 1998 before Matty and Vince left the band in June and Dirk rejoined as the guitarist, with Jan playing bass again. This new line-up, of Jan, Burt and Dirk recorded several more split EPs, and toured in the Czech Republic and Slovakia. They also played gigs with other bands in the underground scene such as
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, My Minds Mine and
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. The band ended the decade with a line-up that would last for several years into the new millennium.


2000s

In 2000, Agathocles released their sixth full-length, ''To Serve… to Protect'', that was distributed through the Italian label Vacation House (later re-released with bonus tracks by the Brazilian labels No Fashion HC and Heavy Metal Rock).


Members

*Jan Frederickx - guitar, vocals (1985-) *Nils Laureys - drums, vocals (2007-) *Koen - guitar (2012-)


Past members

*Erwin Vandenbergh - drums (1985-1990) bass (1991) *Ronny - bass (1987-1989) *Jakke - guitar (1987-1990) *Guy - guitar (1989-1990) *Domingo Smets - guitar (1990) *Burt Beyens - drums (1990-2002) *Chris - guitar (1991-1992) *Dirk - bass (1991-1992) *Steve Houtmeyers - guitar (1992-1995) *Matty Dupont - guitar (1995-1998) *Dirk Cuyx - guitar (1998-2007) *Roel Tulleneers - drums (2002-2007) *Tony Schepkens - bass (2007-2008) *Bram Criekemans - bass (2008-2012)


Discography


CDs

*''Keizershof disaster''* 1986-2016 punk/straight edge/hardcore/crust *''Theatric Symbolisation of Life 1992 *''Use Your Anger'' 1992 *''Black Clouds Determinate'' 1994 *''Razor Sharp Daggers'' 1995 *''The LPs: 1989-1991'' 1996 *''Thanks For Your Hostility'' 1996 *''Humarrogance'' 1997 *''Split with Axed Up Conformist'' 1999 *'' To Serve... to Protect...'' 2000 *''Superiority Overdose'' 2001 *''4-Way Split with
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'' 2001 *''Bomb Brussels'' (Live Album) 2001 *''Alive & Mincing'' (Live Album) 2003 *''Mincemania In Bulgaria'' 2004 *''Mincer'' 2006 *''Get Off your Ass/In Noise we Noise'' Split with '' Ruido Genital'' 2007 *''Night Train To Terror'' split with ''
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'' 2007 *''Split with The Vanishing Act'' 2008 *''Split with Armatura'' 2008 *''Abstract split with Cü Sujo'' 2008 *''Grind is Protest'' 2009 *''Split with Crowd Control '' 2009 *''"Imaginary Boundaries" 4-way split with Detrua Ideo/Violenta Dizimacao/Pissdeads '' 2009 *''This is Not a Threat, It's a Promise'' 2010 *''4 way split with Kerenaneko, Prosuck and Rvota'' 2011 *''Kanpai!!'' 2012 *''Agathocles/Nauseate'' - Split CD 2014 *''Commence to Mince'' 2016 *''We Just Don't Fit'' 2018 *''Baltimore Mince Massacre'' 2020


LPs

*''Supposed It Was You (split with Drudge)'' 1989 *''Split with Lunatic Invasion'' 1991 *''Theatric Symbolisation Of Life'' 1992 *''Agarchy / Use Your Anger'' 1997 *''Split with Deadmocracy'' 1998 *''Until It Bleeds'' (Best Of) 1997 *''Live and Noisy'' (Live) 1997 *''Mincecore'' (Compilation) 1998 *''To Serve... To Protect'' 1999 *''Live in Leipzig, Germany 1991'' (Live) 1999 *''Mincecore History 1985-1990'' (Compilation) 2000 *''Keep Mincing'' (Compilation) 2001 *''Superiority Overdose'' 2001 *''Mincecore History 1989-1993'' (Best of) 2001 *''Chop Off Their Trust'' (Split) 2002 *''Live Aalst Belgium 1989'' (Split) 2002 *''Until It Bleeds Again (1994-1999)'' (Best of) 2002 *Split With Sterbe Hilfe - ''Emoc T'now Modcnik Yht!'' (Split Album) 2003 *''To Serve... To Protect / Leads To...'' (Best of) 2003


EPs

*''If This Is Gore, What's Meat Then (split with Riek Boois)'' 1988 *''Split with Disgorge'' 1989 *''Split with V.N.A.'' 1989 *''Fascination of Mutilation'' 1989 *''If This Is Cruel What's Vivisection Then?'' 1989 *''Who Profits? Who Dies? (split with Morbid Organs Mutilation (M.O.M.))'' 1989 *''Split with
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'' 1990 *''Split with
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'' 1991 *''Split with Putrid Offal'' 1991 *''Split with Psycho'' 1991 *''Agarchy'' 1991 *''Cliché?'' 1992 *''Split with Social Genocide'' 1993 *''Blind World (split with Nasum)'' 1993 *''Split with
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'' 1993 *''War Scars (split with Kompost)'' 1993 *''Distrust And Abuse'' 1993 *''Split with Nyctophobic'' 1993 *''Split with Bad Acid Trip'' 1993 *''No Use ...For Hatred'' 1993 *''Split with
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'' 1993 *''Split with Smash The Brain'' 1993 *''Split with
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'' 1994 *''Mince-Mongers in Barna'' 1994 *''Split with Carcass Grinder'' 1994 *''Split with Rot'' 1994 *''Back To 1987'' (Best Of Album) 1994 *''Split with Notoken'' 1995 *''Split with Voltifobia'' 1996 *''Split with Vomit Fall'' 1996 *''Split with Preparation H'' 1996 *''Split with Autoritor'' 1996 *''Split with Krush'' 1996 *''Bomb Brussels'' 1996 *''Minced Alive'' 1996 *''Split with Black Army Jacket'' 1996 *''Split with No Gain - Just Pain'' 1996 *''Split with
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'' 1997 *''Split with Böses Blut'' 1997 *''Split with PP7 Gaftzeb'' 1997 *''Split with Looking For Answer'' 1997 *''Split with Monolith (grindcore)'' 1997 *''Split with Shikabane'' 1997 *''Split with
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'' 1997 *''Split with D.I.E.'' 1997 *''Split with BWF'' 1997 *''Split with Abstain'' 1997 *''Split with Mitten Spider'' 1997 *''Split with Comrades'' 1998 *''Split with Spud'' 1998 *''Split with Bloodsucker'' 1998 *''Split with Depressor'' 1998 *''Split with Hunt Hunters'' 1999 *''Split with Glass Eyes'' 1999 *''Split with Disreantiyouthhellchristbastardassmanx'' 1999 *''Split with Grind Buto'' 1999 *''Split with Piles Left to Rot'' 2000 *''Split with Kontatto'' 2000 *''Split with Din-Addict'' 2000 *''Split with Brutal Headache'' 2000 *''Kicked and Whipped/Keep On Selling Cocaine to Angels'' 2000 *''Split with Disculpa'' 2000 *''Split with Jan AG'' 2002 *''Split with Front Beast'' 2003 *''Split with Sodan Sankareita'' 2003 *''Split EP with The Mad Thrashers'' 2004 *''Split EP with Kadaverficker'' 2004 *''Split with ... Our Last Beer(s)'' 2004 *''Split with dios hastío'' 2005 *''Split with Archagathus'' 2006 *''Split with Seven Minutes of Nausea'' 2007 *''Split with J. Briglia, L. Butler, D. Schoonmaker & J. Williams'' 2008 *''Split with SMG'' 2008 *''Split with Armatura'' 2008 *''Split with Crowd Control'' 2008 *''Split with I Hope You Suffer'' 2008 *''Split with Repulsione'' 2008 *''Split with Disleksick'' 2009 *''Split with ShitFuckingShit and GAP'' *''Split with Jandek'' (collaboration) *''Split with Sposa In Alto Mare'' (7 inches) 2011 *''Split with Kurws'' (5 inches) 2013 *''Split with Necrology'' 2015 *''Split EP with G.I. Joke'' 2015 *''Split with GodCum'' 2018 * ''Split with LtxDan'' 2017 *''Split with Antikult'' 2019 *''Split with Terminal Filth Wimpcore Killer'' (7 inch) 2021 *''Stabilithocles (split with Стабильность)'' 2022


DTs

*''Cabbalic Gnosticism'' 1988 *''Live In Gierle'' 1989


DVDs

*''Superiority Overdose'' 2002


References


External links


Agathocles Interview at Diabolical Conquest Webzine
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