''Seventeen Seconds'' is the second studio album by English
rock band
the Cure
The Cure are an English rock band formed in 1978 in Crawley, West Sussex. Throughout numerous lineup changes since the band's formation, guitarist, lead vocalist, and songwriter Robert Smith has remained the only constant member. The band's ...
, released on 18 April 1980 by
Fiction Records
Fiction Records is a British record label founded by Chris Parry in 1978, owned by Universal Music Group and based in the United Kingdom. It is best known for being the home of The Cure for over 20 years. It was originally a part of Polydor, ...
. The album marked the first time frontman
Robert Smith Robert Smith or Bob Smith, or similar, may refer to:
Business
* Robert MacKay Smith (1802–1888), Scottish businessman, meteorologist and philanthropist who founded Glasgow University's Mackay Smith Prizes
* Robert Barr Smith (1824–1915), ...
co-produced with
Mike Hedges. After the departure of original bassist
Michael Dempsey
Michael Stephen Dempsey (born 29 November 1958) is an English musician and composer, who has played bass as a member of several post-punk and new wave bands, including the Cure and the Associates.
History
Early years
Dempsey was born on 29 ...
,
Simon Gallup became an official member along with keyboardist
Matthieu Hartley
Matthieu Hartley (born 4 February 1960) is an English musician born in Smallfield, England. He is best known for as the original keyboardist for The Cure. Before then he was in Lockjaw and The Magazine Spies and was in several bands after leavi ...
. The single "
A Forest" was the band's first entry in the top 40 of the
UK Singles Chart
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.
History
At the end of the Cure's 1979 UK tour supporting
Siouxsie and the Banshees
Siouxsie and the Banshees were a British Rock music, rock band formed in London in 1976 by vocalist Siouxsie Sioux and bass guitarist Steven Severin. They have been widely influential, both over their contemporaries and with later acts. Q (maga ...
,
Robert Smith Robert Smith or Bob Smith, or similar, may refer to:
Business
* Robert MacKay Smith (1802–1888), Scottish businessman, meteorologist and philanthropist who founded Glasgow University's Mackay Smith Prizes
* Robert Barr Smith (1824–1915), ...
spoke less and less with bassist
Michael Dempsey
Michael Stephen Dempsey (born 29 November 1958) is an English musician and composer, who has played bass as a member of several post-punk and new wave bands, including the Cure and the Associates.
History
Early years
Dempsey was born on 29 ...
. Early versions of "Play for Today" and "M" had been performed at a few concerts, but Dempsey did not like the new musical direction that Smith wanted to take. Smith commented: "I think the final straw came when I played Michael the demos for the next album and he hated them. He wanted us to be
XTC part 2 and – if anything – I wanted us to be the Banshees part 2. So he left".
Playing guitar with the Banshees for two months and learning their songs opened up another horizon to Smith. "It allowed me to think beyond what we were doing. I wanted to have a band that does what
Steven Severin
Steven Severin (born Steven John Bailey; 25 September 1955) is an English songwriter, composer, multi-instrumentalist and producer. He is best known as the bassist of the rock band Siouxsie and the Banshees which he co-founded in 1976. He took t ...
and
Budgie do, where they just get a bassline and the drum part and
Siouxsie wails". The records to which Smith was frequently listening during the composition of the album were ''
Five Leaves Left
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Recording
''Five Leaves Left'' was recorded between July 1968 and June 1969 at S ...
'' by
Nick Drake
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, ''
Isle of Wight
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'' by
Jimi Hendrix, ''
Astral Weeks'' by
Van Morrison
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As a teenager in ...
and ''
Low
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* Salzburg Airport (ICAO airport code: LO ...
'' by
David Bowie
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.
Smith wrote the lyrics and music for most of the record at his parents' home, on a
Hammond organ
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with a built-in tape recorder. Interviewed in 2004, producer
Mike Hedges did not recall any demo tracks, with the band generally playing the track in the studio before laying down a backing track to which overdubs were added.
Two members of
the Magazine Spies, bass guitarist
Simon Gallup and keyboardist
Matthieu Hartley
Matthieu Hartley (born 4 February 1960) is an English musician born in Smallfield, England. He is best known for as the original keyboardist for The Cure. Before then he was in Lockjaw and The Magazine Spies and was in several bands after leavi ...
, were added to the band's lineup. Gallup replaced Dempsey, which relieved Smith as he felt Dempsey's basslines were too ornate. Hartley's synth work added a new dimension to the band's newly ethereal sound, although he would later clash with Smith over complexity; Hartley enjoyed complex chords but Smith wanted single notes.
Money was short, so the album was recorded and mixed in seven days on a budget of between £2,000 and £3,000, which resulted in the band working 16 or 17 hours a day.
Smith stated that as a result, the track "The Final Sound", which was planned to be much longer, was cut down to 53 seconds because the tape ran out while recording and band could not record it again. The album, mostly a collection of downbeat tracks, features ambient echoing vocals
with the sonic direction driven by its drum sound.
Musical style
Retrospectively, ''Seventeen Seconds'' has been considered an early example of
gothic rock.
Its "gloomscapes" are considered to be "a sonic touchstone" for the forthcoming movement.
The track "The Final Sound" is "so positively gothic you could almost be fooled into believing that it was lifted from the soundtrack of some
Hammer horror
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gorefest".
The album has also been described as
new wave and
post-punk
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.
Release and reissue
''Seventeen Seconds'' was released on 18 April 1980. It reached No. 20 on the
British album charts.
The record was repackaged in the US in 1981 (on the
A&M label) with ''
Faith
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'' as ''Happily Ever After'', available as a double LP. In 2005, the album was remastered as part of Universal's Deluxe Edition series, featuring bonus live tracks and demos as well as studio material by
Cult Hero, a 1970s-style progressive rock band along the lines of
Easy Cure that featured Smith's postman Frank Bell as lead singer. ''Seventeen Seconds'' charted in the United States for the first time in September 2020, when it debuted at No. 186 on the
''Billboard'' 200 album chart.
Reception and legacy
The album's songs have been described by critics as featuring vague, often unsettling lyrics and dark, spare, minimalistic melodies. Some reviewers, such as
Nick Kent
Nick Kent (born 24 December 1951) is a British rock critic best known for his writing for the '' NME'' in the 1970s, and his books ''The Dark Stuff'' (1994) and ''Apathy for the Devil'' (2010).
Early life
Kent, the son of a former Abbey Road ...
of ''
NME'', felt that ''Seventeen Seconds'' represented a far more mature Cure, who had come very far musically in less than one year. Ian Cranna of ''
Smash Hits
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'' wrote that the band were creating more ambitious music, while still retaining their "powerful melodic intensity".
Chris Westwood
Christopher John Westwood (born 13 February 1977) is an English retired footballer.
Career
Wolverhampton Wanderers
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Reading
Westwood moved to Read ...
of ''
Record Mirror
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'' was less enthusiastic, viewing the album as "a sidewards step" rather than a progression; he found the material "biteless, a bit distant", showcasing a "reclusive, disturbed Cure, sitting in cold, dark, empty rooms, watching clocks".
Simon Reynolds
Simon Reynolds (born 19 June 1963) is an English music journalist and author who began his professional career on the staff of ''Melody Maker'' in the mid-1980s. He has since gone on to freelance and publish a number of full-length books on musi ...
said the album was "translucent-sounding", with shades of
the Durutti Column
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,
Young Marble Giants
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and ''
Another Green World'' by
Brian Eno
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.
AllMusic
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writer Chris True said that while ''Seventeen Seconds'' had come to be largely overlooked in later years apart from its single "
A Forest", it nonetheless represented an important development for the Cure, capturing them becoming "more rigid in sound, and more disciplined in attitude", and anticipating the bleak lyrical themes that would become more apparent on subsequent Cure albums.
''Seventeen Seconds'' was included in the book ''
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die''.
The authors note: "Like the album's cover art, which is little more than an abstract blur, the bleak, minimalist sound of ''Seventeen Seconds''-era Cure is subtly suggestive." Attention is drawn to the "beguiling bleakness, both in its brief instrumentals and the more pop-oriented tracks (such as the sharp, hook-laden 'Play for Today') that hark back to their earlier work."
In 2020, ''
Rolling Stone
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'' included ''Seventeen Seconds'' in their "80 Greatest albums of 1980" list.
Track listing
Note
*The US and UK
cassette versions feature different cover art, with some tree branches at left and a reddish blob at the bottom, and have an alternate track order, with "A Forest" appearing as track 2 on Side A, switching places with "Play For Today" appearing as track 2 on Side B:
Personnel
The Cure
*
Robert Smith Robert Smith or Bob Smith, or similar, may refer to:
Business
* Robert MacKay Smith (1802–1888), Scottish businessman, meteorologist and philanthropist who founded Glasgow University's Mackay Smith Prizes
* Robert Barr Smith (1824–1915), ...
– guitars, vocals, production
*
Matthieu Hartley
Matthieu Hartley (born 4 February 1960) is an English musician born in Smallfield, England. He is best known for as the original keyboardist for The Cure. Before then he was in Lockjaw and The Magazine Spies and was in several bands after leavi ...
– keyboards, production assistance
*
Lol Tolhurst
Laurence Andrew "Lol" Tolhurst (born 3 February 1959) is a founding member and the former drummer and keyboardist of English band The Cure - he left the Cure in 1989 and was later involved in the band Presence and his current project, Levinhurs ...
– drums, production assistance
*
Simon Gallup – bass guitar, production assistance
Production
*
Mike Hedges – production, engineering
*
Chris Parry – production assistance
* Mike Dutton - engineering
* Nigel Green – engineering assistance
* Andrew Warwick – engineering assistance
*
Andrew Douglas – photography
* Bill Smith and the Cure – cover art
Charts
Weekly charts
Year-end charts
Certifications and sales
References
External links
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