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When People Were Shorter and Lived Near the Water was an American
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band from
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active from 1986 to 1996. Their three albums and several EPs consist of experimental
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of songs from various genres of popular music.
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critics Scott Schinder and David Greenberger wrote that their renditions, which contain both precise and loose arrangements, were "not exactly affectionate tributes, but not complete jokes either," giving the group the double identity of an
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and party band. Though commercially unsuccessful, they were a critically respected staple of the experimental scene associated with their label
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and shared the stage, as well as several members, with the groups
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, Bongwater and
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.


History

Basing their repertoire around deconstructive cover versions of other artists' songs, the group was formed in 1986 by vocalists Kim Rancourt and Joe Defilipps (the latter of whom also played
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),
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David Raymer and Bob Meetsma,
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Mitch Strassberg and
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Ron Spitzer (of
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). Released on the Trace Elements imprint, their 1987 debut EP included a
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cover and a recitation of the
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. Their second EP, ''Uncle Ben'' (1988), featured the addition of bassist
Dave Rick David Matthew Rick is an American guitarist and former member of underground rock bands B.A.L.L.,True Bongwater, King Missile,Strong, p. 390 Phantom Tollbooth, When People Were Shorter and Lived Near the Water, Wonderama, and Yo La Tengo. H ...
(of
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, King Missile, Bongwater, and
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) and drummer
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(of the Klezmatics, Bongwater, Shockabilly, and
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's band). The record was also their first release with Shimmy Disc, a like-minded experimental rock label run by Bongwater leader
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, who himself frequently played on the group's recordings. The ''
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'' LP followed in 1989, composed entirely of
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covers.
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and
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(also of King Missile) played extensively on the record as a guest and joined as a full-time member thereafter. In 1991, the band released '' Porgy'', an album of material from Ira and
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''. Their third and final LP, '' Bill Kennedy's Showtime'' (1994), comprised songs by semi-obscure 1960s and 1970s
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rock and soul bands, as Rancourt had grown up in the area during that time. Talk of an album of material popularized by
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arose as plans for the band's fourth LP, but the record never materialized, and the band became inactive. Rancourt and Rick next co-founded Shapir-O'Rama, which played original music. They recorded several albums, including two with
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. Rancourt later formed JFK with Andrew W.K. and Don Fleming. Defilipps played in After That It's All Gravy, while Xefos, Rick, and Licht remained active with numerous other groups.


Members

*Kim Rancourt –
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,
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, casio horn (1986–1996) *Joe Defilipps – vocals,
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(1986–1996) *David Raymer –
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,
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, vocals (1986–1996) *Bob Meetsma – guitar,
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,
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,
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,
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, vocals (1986–1996) *Mitch Strassberg – bass (1986–1988) *Ron Spitzer – drums (1986–1988) *
Dave Rick David Matthew Rick is an American guitarist and former member of underground rock bands B.A.L.L.,True Bongwater, King Missile,Strong, p. 390 Phantom Tollbooth, When People Were Shorter and Lived Near the Water, Wonderama, and Yo La Tengo. H ...
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, guitar, vocals (1988–1996) *
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(1988–1996) *
Chris Xefos Christopher Xefos (born January 5, 1964) is an American multi-instrumentalist musician/engineer/ producer and former member of band King Missile. He plays various instruments such as accordion, bass, piano, and synthesizer, among others. He began ...
– keyboards,
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,
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, vocals, etc. (1989–1996)


Discography

;Albums *''
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'' (1989) *'' Porgy'' (1991) *'' Bill Kennedy's Showtime'' (1993) ;Singles *''When People Were Shorter and Lived Near the Water'' (1987) *''Uncle Ben'' (1988) *''Tiny E.P.'' (1990) ;Compilation appearances *'' Rutles Highway Revisited'' (1990) – "Let's Be Natural" *'' Donovan: Island of Circles'' (1992) – "The Natural High is the Best High in the World (Riki Tiki Tavi)" *'' Surprise Your Pig: A Tribute to R.E.M.'' (1993) – "I Believe"


References


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