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Vivian Martin Prince (born 9 August 1941) is an English drummer. He played in a variety of bands during the 1960s, including
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. He was noted for his wild and eccentric behaviour, which garnered a lot of publicity for the group and influenced
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.


Biography

Viv Prince was born in
Loughborough Loughborough ( ) is a market town in the Charnwood (borough), Charnwood Borough of Leicestershire, England; it is the administrative centre of Charnwood Borough Council. At the United Kingdom 2021 census, the town's built-up area had a popula ...
. His father, Harry Prince, played in a local
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band. Viv's first instrument was a guitar, but then he switched to playing drums. After leaving school, he worked briefly as a tax officer. He also started playing with local jazz bands, including in his father's band as a hobby. Viv Prince's first professional work as a musician was with the traditional jazz band Lennie Baldwin's Dauphin Street Six in 1961, with whom he toured in Denmark and made his first recordings in 1962. He left them during a tour in Germany to join the Jazz Cardinals. Without a work permit, he soon had to return to London to make a name for himself as a
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, contributing to many pop records of the era. He joined Carter-Lewis and the Southerners in June 1963, with whom he recorded three singles, including the hit "Your Momma's Out of Town" alongside
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. Around this time, he became the first British rock musician against a drug-related charge that was brought up in court. As a skilled professional with an extrovert, unorthodox drumming style and considerable entertainment value, Viv Prince was repeatedly approached by young British rock bands - such as
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- to become their drummer. In 1964, he was persuaded by
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management to join, thus completing its first iconic lineup, and played the drums on their first two albums '' The Pretty Things'' and '' Get the Picture?'', which were both released in 1965. The Pretty Things often made the headlines for their wild antics, which were due in no small part to Prince. Often inebriated or high on amphetamines, he would leave his drum stool to roam around the stage, and generally cause havoc wherever he went. A young
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attended several Pretty Things concerts to study Prince's style, according to Jimmy Page. Prince was also the one to coin the nickname "Moon the Loon" for Keith, whom with
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, Dave Davies,
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, P.J. Proby, and
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, were on friendly terms with. The mayhem culminated in a tour of
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in August 1965, during which he paraded around in a
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-skin pillbox hat, carrying around a dead
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on a string and started plotting pranks and setting fires onstage, which resulted in big amount of bad publicity. Following an altercation with the crew, he was thrown off the plane that was taking the band home after the tour, and had to make his own way back to England. Over time, he would miss recording sessions more and more often, and the band had to call upon other drummers to replace him, including Bobby Graham, Mitch Mitchell and Twink. His tenure with the Pretty Things ended in mid-November 1965, when the band sacked him due to his growing unreliability. He was replaced by Skip Alan. After leaving the Pretty Things, Prince played with the Bunch of Fives and the Denny Laine String Band. He also deputised on drums during concerts for the Honeycombs,
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, and
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, and was considered to become a drummer for the Jeff Beck Group. For some time, he ran the Knuckles club in Soho, London that as he claimed, served as the first rehearsal base for
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in England. Prince also claimed that he suggested musicians to complete the lineup of
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. During the second half of the 1960s, he contributed to LPs by
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(at the session led by
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), Twink and McGough & McGear (also joined by
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), as well as released a few singles as a member of the bands, such as VAMP (with Pete Sears and members of Hutchinson Clark), Kate, and a solo single "Light of the Charge Brigade". Viv Prince was also reported to be involved in the election campaign activity for Screaming Lord Sutch's Monster Raving Looney Party, as well as he was reported to be expelled from the members of Hell's Angels for bad behaviour. He also underwent a few trial cases, and a survived a fire in his house. During the 1980s, Prince returned to Loughborough for a while, playing with local soul band Sugar Shack. As of 2005, he was living near Faro,
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.Stax, Neill & Baker, pp. 110–112 The Pretty Things wrote and recorded "Vivian Prince," a song in homage to him, on their album '' ... Rage Before Beauty'', released in 1999.


Discography

* 1965: Pretty Things – '' The Pretty Things'' * 1965: Pretty Things – '' Get the Picture?'' * 1966: Viv Prince – "Light of the Charge Brigade" / "Minuet for Ringo" * 1966: Chicago Line – "Shimmy Shimmy Ko Ko Bop" / "Jump Back" * 1966: The Bunch of Fives – "I Go Home Baby" / "At the Station" * 1968: Vamp – "Floatin'" / "Thinkin' Too Much" * 1969: Vamp – "Green Pea" / "Wake Up and Tell Me" * 1969: Kate – ''Shout It / Sweet Little Thing''


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* {{DEFAULTSORT:Prince, Viv 1941 births Living people People from Loughborough English rock drummers Pretty Things members The Jeff Beck Group members Chicago Line (band) members