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''The Bechdel Cast'' is a weekly
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about the representation of women in film. It is named after the
Bechdel test The Bechdel test ( ), also known as the Bechdel-Wallace test, is a measure of the representation of women in film and other fiction. The test asks whether a work features at least two women who have a conversation about something other than a m ...
. ''The Bechdel Cast'' is hosted by
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–based comedians Caitlin Durante and
Jamie Loftus Jamie Bethany Loftus is an American writer, stand up alternative comedian, animator, podcast co-host, and actor based in Los Angeles. She is known for her solo work, such as her one-woman shows ''I Lost My Virginity on August 15, 2010'' and ''B ...
. In November 2016 ''The Bechdel Cast'' released their introductory episode titled "Welcome to The Bechdel Cast!" Their first episode was on the film ''
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'' with guest Zach Sherwin. The show is broadcast on the
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. Select episodes are released to supporters on the crowdfunding platform
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twice a month.


Premise

The name of the podcast derives from cartoonist
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, who developed the concept of the
Bechdel test The Bechdel test ( ), also known as the Bechdel-Wallace test, is a measure of the representation of women in film and other fiction. The test asks whether a work features at least two women who have a conversation about something other than a m ...
, sometimes called the Bechdel–Wallace test. The test investigates whether or not a work includes at least two women conversing about a topic other than a man. Sometimes a requirement that the two women must have names is added, which is a rule the podcast adheres to. For the purposes of the show, the exchange only needs to be two lines of dialogue. A commonality of many movies that pass is that often only this minimum is reached typically by an inconsequential conversation or one in which the two lines are nested within a larger conversation that is about men. The hosts often discuss the limitations of the Bechdel Test and, despite using it as their namesake, primarily employ it to initiate a larger discussion about the depiction and uses of female-identifying characters in film. The hosts have recently moved to a use of the test that looks at whether a film has two named characters of any marginalized gender, who have a conversation about anything other than a man, for two lines of dialogue, and increasingly lines must be relevant or central to the plot. They occasionally reference and utilize similar tests of representation, such as the Vito Russo test, the DuVernay Test, and the Mako Mori Test.


Format and structure

The podcast is informally comedic, and formatted in an improvisational style. They frequently mention supplemental running jokes, such as Loftus' obsession with actor
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, and Durante's reminder of their master's degree in
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from
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. The hosts begin by introducing their guest, often a comedian, actor, or other media personality. Durante then briefly recaps the film at the top of the episode with interjections from Loftus and the guest. This is followed by analyzing and discussing the representation of women through an intersectional lens, alternating in tone between serious and jocular. At the end of each episode, they determine whether or not the film passes the
Bechdel test The Bechdel test ( ), also known as the Bechdel-Wallace test, is a measure of the representation of women in film and other fiction. The test asks whether a work features at least two women who have a conversation about something other than a m ...
, as well as rate it on a "nipple scale" from 0 to 5 nipples based on how marginalized genders are portrayed overall. Episodes typically range from 45 minutes to 80 minutes, and are released once a week on Thursdays and additional episodes a month on
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. Most episodes are recorded in the
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studio in
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. Since 2018 they have begun touring and performing for studio audiences as ''The Bechdel Cast'', which include live episodes such as "The Notebook with Caitlin Gill" and "Edward Scissorhands with Maggie Mae Fish".


Hosts

Caitlin Durante is a comedian and producer. They were the program producer for the Nerdmelt Showroom comedy venue at Meltdown Comics in
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from early 2015 until it closed in April 2018. They are also a scriptwriter and story analyst, and frequently offer writing workshops in
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.
Jamie Loftus Jamie Bethany Loftus is an American writer, stand up alternative comedian, animator, podcast co-host, and actor based in Los Angeles. She is known for her solo work, such as her one-woman shows ''I Lost My Virginity on August 15, 2010'' and ''B ...
is an author, sketch writer, animator, and actor. Her comedic style can best be described as
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, with absurd pieces such as her one-woman show "I Lost My Virginity August 15, 2010" and her attempt to raise money for
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Criticism and Reception

Early reviews of the show characterized it as a "roast of your favourite movie". The tone of the podcast has evolved over the years as the hosts have become more educated on Intersectional feminist issues and episodes have taken on more serious films about or by marginalized people, with earlier episodes having been more flippant in their comedic style. Due to the evolution of the show, some reviewers have suggested new listeners try out the podcast by starting with later episodes such as the one covering ''Black Panther''. The podcast has appeared on multiple lists for top podcasts in the realm of feminist film review.


Episodes


Notes

:1.Only Loftus gave a rating in this episode. :2.Loftus would later admit that she has never seen ''The Matrix''. On the Dec. 22, 2021 Loftus reminded the audience she had not watched on their initial recording but did watch for the Dec 22nd new episode. :3.The cumulative total is higher due to the participation of two guests. A film's weighted score, created by averaging the total guest scores, is indicated with (W); the cumulative with (C). :4.The guest left the episode early and did not give a rating. :5.In the absence of three ratings a weighted score is created by averaging the two available scores to create a proxy guest score. :6.Durante gave the film -40 Nipples and -40 Ass-Cheeks. :7.Loftus gave the film -40 Nipples and -40 Butts. :8.The guest did not give a rating. :9.Loftus asked the Wikipedia editor updating the page to choose between 3.5 or 4. This editor has chosen 4. :10.The guest opted to not use the Nipple Rating and gave the film "1 me at ge18." :11.Given the specific content of this film, Caitlin and Jamie said that while it may have passed they were not choosing to address the test and whether it passed. :12.Caitlin initially rated it .5 nipples but to keep the total low given Grace's 4.5 nipples, she lowered hers to -4. :13.First of several re-dos of early episodes, since taken down from the feed. :14.Bridget said she could not give it a 4 but was in a 3.5-4 range so I selected 3.75 for score total. :15.Caitlin did not decide on a score so in calculating the total this editor used an average score in calculating the totals. :16.The guest, Cerise Castle, did not give a score but said it was horrible which this editor interpreted as a zero. :17.Per Jaime's request scores were 6 nipples as a little joke, note the date of release. :18.Over the last few episodes their definition and use of the Bechdel Test has expanded to not just be a two passing lines but lines central to the plot. This movie has lines that pass on the surface but are not relevant to the story. :19.They speak about To All the Boys I've Loved Before but discuss the whole trilogy in this episode. :20.At the time of recording Jaime did not feel like she was able to give a rating to the film as she is still processing given the subject matter. :21.Keah Brown was a brief guest and did not remain for the whole Matreon episode and so was not around to provide a rating when the episode was moved to the main feed. :22.This episode and episode 252 are an Aack Cast crossover. Episode 251, Caitlin and Jamie introduce the episode. Episode 252, is a reshare of the Aackcast Episode 3. :23.After initially giving the film a 3.25 Caitlin, given the content of the movie, changed her rating to pi, 3.14...giving the total rating a never-ending decimal point. :24.Caitlin oscillated between and 0 and .5 and seemed like she was leaning toward 0 and this editor chose 0 as the nipple scale rating. :25.This episode, covering Mad Max:Fury Road, is a re-do of an initial episode where Caitlin and Jamie discuss their growth from their initial recording. :26.Miles Gray gave the film 24 Nipto coins that converts to 5 nipples. They proceeded to joke about Nipto currency. :27.Caitlin could not decide between 2 and 3 and was leaning toward 2.5 which this editor chose as her official score. :28.Mala assigned 4 nipples to start but while assigning them, in wanting to give more, gave 5 so this editor chose 5 as her score. :29.Cerise's audio was lost and Caitlin said that her rating was between 0 and 1 and this editor chose 0 for the score. :30.The Santa Clauses is the only TV show covered by the Bechdel Cast. The vibe of this episode is very comedic resulting in a 10 nipple rating from everyone, a largely unprecedented ranking. :31.Jamie was thinking of giving a 2.5 but also wanted to give an extra .5 so said the editor should choose and this editor chose 2.75, between 2.5 and 3. :32.This is part one of a two part Titanic episode, labeled tape one as a nod to the movie released on 2 VHS tapes. There is no guest. In this episode they do not recap the episode (so no Bechdel Test pass or ratings) but they discuss their history with Titanic and briefly recap their previous episodes. :33.This is part two of a two part Titanic episode. Again, there is no guest. In this episode they recap the movie and provide new factoids, context and information from various commentary tracks. They do not address the Bechdel Test, or provide a rating of the film. :34.This episode featured a live segment with Dani Fernandez who gave the film 8 nipples. Caitlin and Jamie gave their rating after having guest La'Ron Readus discuss the film more in depth. Neither he nor the hosts gave ratings, but Caitlin and Jamie gave their rating after in the final segment. :35.The guest, Ritesh Babu, was featured to discuss the historical context of RRR an
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Given how they were featured in the episode they did not give a rating for the film. :36.This episode was from a recorded live show. During the live they give fun, joke ratings and give a more serious rating on this episode. The guests were not back for the update so they do not have a rating this episode. :37.This episode is the first time the Cast covers a documentary. As such passing the Bechdel Test was inapplicable (though Caitlin, Jamie and guest agreed Indigenous women could have been better represented) and as a documentary did not feel it was appropriate to give a nipple rating, thus gave none. :38.On this episode, Caitlin and Jamie introduce a returning show, new to iHeartRadio called We the Unhoused. After introducing the show, the share a segment from the beginning of the relaunch episode. Because of this format, there is no guest, or rating for this episode. :39.In this episode, guest Kiran Deol, rates the film on a scale of hotdogs with no clear upper end. The total ranking incorporates that resulting in 45.5. :40.In this episode Caitlin cannot decide between 2.5 and 3 so this editor chose 2.75 to meet in the middle. :41.This episode Caitlin and Jamie discuss the journey so far, including covering 500 movies since the show's inception on the main feed and the Patreon aka Matreon. No guests or rankings but talk about what they've learned doing to the show. :42.The guest could not decide between 3.75 and 4 so this editor took an average for their guest score. :43.This episode is a re-release of the Slap Shot episode with a brief intro contextualizing the release. It was released in honor of the passing of Jamie Loftus' father and episode guest Mike Loftus. :44.Jamie and the guest could not decide on a rating so this editor put it as N/A. To calculate the weighted score this editor used a zero for Jamie making the weighted score 4.87. :45.While Caitlin and Jamie agreed the film technically passed, the context and subtext were often about a boy/man and so they agreed it did not spiritually pass and so this editor listed it as no. :46.Jamie could not decide on a score and needed more time to process the film and so score was left as N/A. :47.Caitlin and Jamie could not pick on the nipple scale so gave hole ratings. The guest did give a nipple scale rating. :48.On this episode Caitlin and Jamie have a conversation with Alision Bechdel and they did not rate a movie, so there was nothing to pass, and nothing to rate. :49.This episode is a re-release of a main feed episode with a new intro about the ICE raids and protests in LA at the time of the release. The original episode (312) featured a note about the score of the guest repeated here for clarity without duplicating the note: Mala assigned 4 nipples to start but while assigning them, in wanting to give more, gave 5 so this editor chose 5 as her score. :50.This episode revisits Titanic again with a discussion of the animated The Legend of the Titanic, Titanic II, documentary the Six and more. :51.This Matreon episode is titled "The (Little) Snow(wo)man" as the Little Women movie received the most votes and they spend the first 10 minutes discussing Little Women and said they didn't have anything new to say and thus chose to discuss the Snowman, and spend the rest of the episode it. :52.{Intended to be a main-feed episode about the 2017 movie The Shape of Water, Caitlin and Jamie get distracted talking about the band 311's cruise, how Jamie would like to die (as the only fatality on the 311 cruise), the Avatar movie franchise, the staff of Medieval Times unionizing, and various other cultural ephemera and never get around to talking about the movie. :53.Caitlin and Jamie discuss
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broadly as part of their Pinocchio Wars Matreon theme (including the source material), Pinocchio: A True Story (with Pauly Shore) and the Disney live-action remake. :54.Caitlin and Jamie continue the Pinocchio Wars with a discussion of Guillermo Del Toro's Pinocchio and briefly The Erotic Adventures of Pinocchio. :55.In this Matreon episode, the theme is Junion (rhymes with union), where Caitlin and Jamie discuss the WGA strike and contextualizes it in broader Hollywood union conversations.


References


External links

* {{official website, https://www.bechdelcast.com/, The Bechdel Cast
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