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The Talbot (also known as the St. Hubert Hound) was a type of hunting hound common in England during the
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. It is depicted in art of the period as small to medium-sized, white in colour, with short legs, large powerful feet, a deep chest with a slender waist, long drooping ears, and a very long curled tail. It is shown in one well-known example at
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with a fierce facial expression. It is now
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, but is believed to be an ancestor of the modern
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and
Bloodhound The bloodhound is a large scent hound, originally bred for hunting deer, wild boar, rabbits, and since the Middle Ages, for tracking people. Believed to be descended from hounds once kept at the Abbey of Saint-Hubert, Belgium, in French it is ...
. It is uncertain whether it was a
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(bred for the quality of its nose), a
sighthound Sighthounds (also called gazehounds) are a Dog type, type of hound dog that hunts primarily by sight and speed, unlike scent hound, scent hounds, which rely on scent and endurance. Appearance These dogs specialize in pursuing prey, keeping it ...
(bred for the quality of sight and speed), or a dog used for digging out quarry, nor is it known what type of quarry it hunted, whether deer, fox, boar, etc.


History

In medieval times, "Talbot" was a common name for an individual hound, as used before 1400 in
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's "
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" (line 3383), and is used as an example of a hound name in George Turberville's 1575 work ''The Noble Art of Venerie or Huntyng''. By the 17th century it clearly existed as a breed or type. Large, heavy, slow hounds were "talbot-like", whatever their colour, though the "milk white" was "the true talbot". In his poem "The Chase", published in 1735,
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describes the use of " lime-hounds" (leash hounds) on the Scottish Borders to catch thieves, obviously referring to the Bloodhound and the
sleuth hound The sleuth hound (, from Old Norse ''slóð'' "track, trail" + hound) was a Dog breed, breed of dog. Broadly, it was a Scottish English, Scottish term for what in England was called the Bloodhound, although it seems that there were slight diffe ...
, but adds that the (white) Talbot was the "prime" example of this type of hound. The origin of both the name and the animal is uncertain. In a quotation from about 1449, the king referred to
John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, 1st Earl of Waterford, 7th Baron Talbot, KG (17 July 1453), known as "Old Talbot" and "Terror of the French" was an English nobleman and a noted military commander during the Hundred Years' War. He was t ...
as "Talbott, oure good dogge", perhaps as a play on his name, or in allusion to that family's
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.''The Oxford English Dictionary'' In a 1445 illuminated manuscript in the British Library John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury is depicted presenting a Book of Romances to Queen
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, with a short-legged and long-eared white hound standing behind him, which serves to identify him symbolically. It is very similar to a 15th-century depiction on a ceiling at Haddon Hall, Derbyshire, made following the marriage of Sir Henry Vernon (1445–1515) to Ann Talbot, daughter of
John Talbot, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury John Talbot was the 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury, 2nd Earl of Waterford, 8th Baron Talbot, KG (12 December 1413 – 10 July 1460) was an English nobleman and soldier and the son of John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, 1st Earl of Waterford, 7th Baro ...
. The Talbot and the Greyhound were, apparently, the only
hound A hound is a type of hunting dog used by hunters to track or chase prey. Description Hounds can be contrasted with gun dogs that assist hunters by identifying prey and/or recovering shot quarry. The hound breeds were the first hunting dogs. ...
s used in
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, and it could be that the Talbot originated as an emblematic or heraldic hound. References to this heraldic Talbot seem to be earlier than any references to a real dog. The Talbot appears in many
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, for instance in later ones of the Earls of Shrewsbury, in which two Talbots appear as
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It is quite plausible that from these beginnings the name "Talbot" was extended to any large, heavy, white scent hound, and from there helped to establish a breed or type. It was certainly similar to the Bloodhound ("white" is given as one of the colours of the Bloodhound in the 16th and 17th centuries) as regards size, and as regards use to a leash-hound. As earliest references to this dog are much later than those to Bloodhounds, it cannot convincingly be regarded as an ancestor of the Bloodhound. The Talbot seems to have existed as a breed, a little distinct from the Bloodhound, until the end of the 18th century, after which, like two other large breeds to which it may have been related, the North Country Beagle, Northern Hound and the
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, it disappeared. Some early dog-shows apparently offered classes for Talbots, but attracted no entrants, so they were dropped. File:Shrewsbury Book f.2 (Talbot-Dog).jpg, A Talbot Hound depicted in 1445 behind
John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, 1st Earl of Waterford, 7th Baron Talbot, KG (17 July 1453), known as "Old Talbot" and "Terror of the French" was an English nobleman and a noted military commander during the Hundred Years' War. He was t ...
, presenting a book to Margaret of Anjou, Queen of England (illuminated miniature, Talbot Shrewsbury Book, British Library, Royal 15 E VI f. 2v) File:Haddon-Hall-Talbot.jpg, 15th c. depiction of a Talbot Hound at
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, Derbyshire, made following the marriage of Sir Henry Vernon (1445-1515) to Ann Talbot, daughter of
John Talbot, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury John Talbot was the 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury, 2nd Earl of Waterford, 8th Baron Talbot, KG (12 December 1413 – 10 July 1460) was an English nobleman and soldier and the son of John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, 1st Earl of Waterford, 7th Baro ...
Image:Cartercrest.jpg, Crest of Carter of Castle Martin: a Talbot standing on a mural crown, 1891 artist's impression File:Talbot Hounds Fountain in Trevelyan Square, Leeds (4134319142).jpg, Talbot Hounds Fountain in Trevelyan Square,
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, a modern imaginary image of the Talbot


Cultural legacy


Arms of Sudbury

The mayor and corporation of the market town of
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, has for arms: ''Sable, a talbot hound sejeant argent on a chief gules a lion passant guardant between two fleurs-de-lys'' or (a white hound sitting erect). The crest is ''A talbot head and neck erased''. Such a hound is also used as a logo for a local school and for many local sports clubs. The dog is always depicted with its tongue protruding. This refers to Simon de Sudbury (c.1316–1381),
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and
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, born in the town, whose coat of arms was ''A talbot hound sejeant within a bordure engrailed'', as is visible sculpted in stone on a wall in the nave of the
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.


Other

The arms of the Carter family of Castle Martin (see
Carter-Campbell of Possil Carter-Campbell of Possil (also known as Campbell of Possil) is a branch of Clan Campbell, a Scottish clan. The Campbells of Possil were originally located in Argyll; and the Carters were an Irish family: the Carter-Campbell name was first used ...
) include a Talbot. The arms of the Earls Waldegrave have supporters of two Talbots. The Talbot Hound was also the symbol of Weston Road High School in the county town of Stafford, Staffordshire. It used to be used in all school stationery and was displayed as white on a navy blue background on ties and jumpers in the school uniform. It was removed when Weston Road became an academy. The Talbot also appears as a
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in the arms of the
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. The Earl of Talbot and Shrewsbury coat of arms was used on Talbot cars manufactured at a purpose-built factory at Barlby Road, Kensington, London and sold as Talbots until 1937. It is now used on the logo of the Talbot Owners' Club. The arms of
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have three Talbots on the shield, a reference to there being a University Campus on Talbot Heath.


Public house signs

"The Talbot" (or "Talbot Arms") is most familiar as a name of English public houses or inns and is usually depicted on the signs as a large white hound with hanging ears, sometimes with spots. Heraldic inn signs usually displayed the arms or heraldic badges of the
lord of the manor Lord of the manor is a title that, in Anglo-Saxon England and Norman England, referred to the landholder of a historical rural estate. The titles date to the English Feudalism, feudal (specifically English feudal barony, baronial) system. The ...
in which they were situated, who was probably the owner of the freehold interest, together with that of most other houses in the village.For example, the ''Dolphin Inn'' in the village of Kenton, Devon, on the Powderham Castle estate of the Courtenay family, whose heraldic badge is a dolphin As the Talbot family possessed countless manors throughout England, the sign would have been well-known. Such signs helped to identify the inn for the illiterate. An inn called ''The Talbot'' in
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, Dorset, U.K., showed as its sign a ''black'' dog, apparently the crest of the Bower family, who owned the manor from the late Middle Ages till 1876. The "Talbot Inn" in
Mells, Somerset Mells is a village and civil parish in Somerset, England, near the town of Frome. Vobster The parish includes the village of Vobster, which had a coal mine of the same name on the Somerset coalfield and a quarry, both of which are now disused. ...
is an allusion to the arms of the
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of
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: ''Sable, three talbots argent'', the arms being possibly a play on the surname as hunting hounds are controlled by the blowing of horns.


References


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15th-century English painting of a Talbot

Heathcoat Armory
* The only public school in the United States known to have the Talbot as its mascot is th
Hampton Township School District
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