Marvin Watson Jr. (born March 19, 1976), better known by his

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Messy Marv, is an American rapper from

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. Messy was also known as a collaborator in the rap group Kaalman's Krew.

Career

Messy Marv released his first rap album, '' Messy Situationz'', in 1996. ''

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'', his 1998 collaboration album with

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, sold more than 50,000 copies. In 2005, Messy Marv started his own record label, Scalen LLC, and released a barrage of albums in 2004-2006. During the Hyphy movement, his songs "Get on My Hype" and "So Hood" received frequent radio airplay. On November 2, 2007, Messy Marv was released from jail after serving twelve months on weapons charges. Before, during and following his jail sentence, he released several albums which made the

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: '' Cake & Ice Cream 2'', released in 2009 and peaked on the

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chart at #39 and on the

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chart at #12, and '' Blow: Blocks and Boat Docks'', a collaboration album with Berner released in 2010 which peaked at #48 on the R&B/Hip-Hop Albums chart. In the spring of 2012, Messy Marv released the mixtape, ''Da Frank Lucas Dat Neva Wore Da Mink Coat'' and the single, "You Gotta Pay Me". In 2013, he announced the release of his newest LP "Playboy Gangsta" under his new moniker "Lil Paper'd Up Mess", and released 3 singles as promotionals for the album: "We Killas", "Beautiful Kalifornia", & "A Girlfriend Ain't What I Need". Marv confirmed via Twitter a release date of July 23, 2013 for the LP. Early in 2014 with a guest feature on single "World Wide Mob" alongside Montana Montana Montana,

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, Ap.9, and Fed X On July 3, 2018, Messy Marv and San Quinn released a 12 song compilation titled ''Joc Nation (Well Connected)''. On December 3, 2018, Messy Marv aka Cashlord Mess signed to Mozzy Records.

Personal life

As a teenager, Messy Marv

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of high school because of family problems. Rapper

and his mother took Messy Marv in when his living situation was unstable. As his music became more popular, Messy Marv struggled with

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and addiction. In recent years, Messy Marv has been in and out of prison. He was arrested again in 2019 for robbery, among other charges. Messy Marv was released from custody in 2023

Feuds

Messy Marv has feuded with a number of other rappers over the years.

Obie Trice

In 2005, Messy Marv was involved in a feud with

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, which escalated when

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, a member of

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, said in a radio interview on

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: "in San Francisco I have to cover my ass." Following this, Guce and Messy Marv released a diss track, "50 Explanations", on the album ''Pill Music: The Rico Act, Vol. 1''.

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and

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then exchanged words over the phone with Guce's camp. Guce stated afterwards, "it's over with, and it never kicked off".

San Quinn

On September 22, 2008, Messy Marv initiated a feud with his cousin San Quinn, by calling him a

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. On December 11, Quinn told HipHopDX that he "loves" Messy Marv despite the

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that they have both exchanged. In a 2010 interview with WordofSouth, he stated the reason for the beef was because he was "talking too much", but that they are attempting to squash the feud.

Spider Loc

On April 19, 2007, rapper

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released a diss track towards Marv, and

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called "Ova Killa" featuring Papa Smurf.

Mistah F.A.B.

In 2009, Messy Marv mocked rapper Mistah F.A.B.'s chain getting stolen repeatedly. This led to diss tracks being exchanged between the rappers, including F.A.B. sending one entitled "Okay" where he impersonates Watson Jr.

Too $hort

In 2011, Messy Marv began speaking negatively about

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. Messy Marv released a

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called "Class of 84 (Fuck Too $hort)", and further criticized $hort during an interview with

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. $hort made a diss track called "Where You At" in response.

Philthy Rich

On September 25, 2013,

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released a track entitled "Swear to God" featuring Kurt Diggler, where he dissed Messy Marv and other Bay Area rappers Kafani & DB Tha General. On October 15 of the same year, Philthy Rich released a freestyle diss track about Marv over the beat of

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's "

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". The next day, under his alias "Lil Paper'd Up Mess", Marv responded with the diss track "I'm Right Here", originally with plans to follow up with a full album entitled ''Philthy Rich Is A Bitch''. The same day, October 16, Philthy released a diss record entitled ''Messy Marv Is A Fake Blood''. Years later, Philthy Rich discussed the feud in a 2022 interview.

Discography

References

External links

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