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John Henry Lloyd (April 25, 1884 – March 19, 1964), nicknamed "Pop" and "El Cuchara", was an American
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and
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in the
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. During his 27-year career, he played for many teams and had a .343
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. Lloyd is considered to be the greatest shortstop in Negro league history, and he was inducted into the
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in 1977.


Early life

Lloyd is thought to have been born in
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. He was a descendant of slaves, and his father died when Lloyd was a baby. Lloyd's maternal grandmother, Maria Jenkins, raised him in Jacksonville. Jenkins had lived in Jacksonville prior to moving to Palatka. The return to Jacksonville may have been prompted by a great fire that had damaged businesses and changed the overall economic situation in Palatka.Singletary, pp. 8-9. Before Lloyd completed elementary school, he had to go to work full-time. Early on, he delivered items for a grocery store, and then he became a railroad porter.


Baseball career


Early career (1905–20)

Lloyd began his professional baseball career in 1905, playing
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for the Acmes of
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. He played
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with the
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of Philadelphia in 1906. The following season,
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signed him for the X Giants' archrivals, the Philadelphia Giants, and moved him to shortstop, where he would remain through the bulk of his career. Sportswriters Harry Daniels and Jimmy Smith both named Lloyd to their 1909 "All American Team" saying he "is a wonder at fielding and hitting, also a fair base runner.""The Base Ball Spirit In The East." Indianapolis Freeman, Indianapolis, Indiana, Saturday, December 25, 1909, Page 7, Columns 1 and 2
/ref> At various points in his baseball career, Lloyd worked non-baseball jobs due to the precarious financial situations of the black leagues. In 1910, Lloyd accepted
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's invitation to join the Chicago Leland Giants, where he anchored a team that Foster described as the greatest of all time. He rejoined White on the newly-organized
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in 1911, batting .475 against all competition. Lloyd took over as player-manager for 1912 and 1913, and in the latter year the Lincolns defeated the
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in a playoff series to become the undisputed champions of black baseball. In 1914, Lloyd travelled west again to play for the American Giants. He split the 1915 season between the New York-based
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and the American Giants, then spent all of 1916 and 1917 with Foster's team. In 1918, Lloyd served as player-manager of the
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, leaving the club early to work for the Army Quartermaster Depot in Chicago. 1919 saw him join the
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of Atlantic City, then 1920 found him back with the Royal Giants. Negro Leagues statistics entered into Major League Baseball’s official records visible through this reference.


Later career (1921–32)

In 1921, he was hired to organize a new team in Foster's young Negro National League. Lloyd's Columbus Buckeyes were not a notable success, however, on the field or in the box office, finishing seventh in a field of eight, and folded upon season's end. The following year, Lloyd was back in the east managing the
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, who had moved to New York City. When the
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was formed in 1923, Ed Bolden hired Lloyd to manage the
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. Lloyd brought home the first ECL pennant by a wide margin, guiding Hilldale to a 32–17 league record. He did not get along with Bolden, was suspended in early September, and was fired at the end of the season. In 1924, Lloyd returned to the Bacharachs, now based again in Atlantic City. With the brilliant young shortstop Dick Lundy on the roster, the 40-year-old Lloyd moved himself to second base. He hit .444 to win the 1924 ECL batting title, at one point reeling off 11 straight base hits. The Bacharachs, however, were merely average under Lloyd during his two years there, finishing fourth both seasons (with records of 30–29 and 26–27). The
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, who had finished in last place in 1925, hired Lloyd to manage them for 1926. They improved to fifth (19–22), then played 1927 and most of 1928 as an independent club. It was during the latter season that Lloyd moved himself to first base while enjoying a fine season at the plate, batting .402 against top black clubs. In 1929, the Lincolns compiled the second-best overall record (40–26) in the
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. Lloyd finished up his career managing the
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in 1931–32. Lloyd played extensively in Cuba, beginning with a 1907 visit to
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from 1908/09 to 1930, batting .329 for his career, and playing on three championship teams (
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that covers the organized (post-1920) Negro leagues, Lloyd batted .343 with a .450 slugging percentage.


Legacy

Lloyd was a heavy hitter, usually batting cleanup during his prime, but also knew how to play " inside baseball" and was an expert place-hitter and bunter. He is generally considered the greatest shortstop in Negro league history, and
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reportedly believed Lloyd to be the greatest baseball player ever. Lloyd was called the "Black Wagner", a reference to
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Hall of Famer
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. On Lloyd, Wagner said "It's an honor to be compared to him." Writer
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ranked Lloyd as the 27th greatest baseball player of all-time in the 2001 book ''
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''. Lloyd was probably the most sought-after African-American player of his generation. "Wherever the money was, that's where I was," he once said. His career record bears this out, showing him constantly moving from team to team. He was also known for his gentlemanly conduct. Lloyd was posthumously inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame in 1977. He was nominated, along with several athletes and other public figures, for induction into the
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in 2014. However, basketball player
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was the only sportsperson inducted. In April 2025, Atlantic City reopened a renovated community baseball stadium and named it Pop Lloyd Stadium in Lloyd's honor.


Later life

After his professional playing days, Lloyd lived in
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. He was a player-coach for the semiprofessional Atlantic City Johnson Stars until 1942. The team was named after politico Nucky Johnson and was later known as the Farley Stars after powerful state senator Frank S. Farley. (Farley had driven the creation of Atlantic City's Pop Lloyd Field to gain support from the city's large black population.)PBS History Detectives, "Pop Lloyd's Baseball Field," original air date: 14 July 2003 (season 1, episode 1) elevision program Lloyd could not run well by that time, and he shifted to playing first base, but a former teammate said that he was still able to hit line drives. Lloyd was a janitor for the Atlantic City School System, including Atlantic City High School. Though he did not have any children, Lloyd became a popular coach in the local youth baseball league. He died in 1964.


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