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Joe Pyne (December 22, 1924 – March 23, 1970) was an American radio and television talk show host, who pioneered the confrontational style in which the host advocates a viewpoint and argues with guests and audience members. He was an influence on other major talk show hosts such as Bill O'Reilly,
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Biography

Joseph Pyne was born in Chester, Pennsylvania. His father, Edward Pyne, was a bricklayer; his mother, Catherine, was a housewife. Pyne graduated from Chester High School in 1942 and immediately enlisted in the United States Marine Corps. He saw combat in the South Pacific, where he earned three battle stars. In 1943, during a Japanese bombing attack, he was wounded in the left knee; he earned a Purple Heart as a result of his injuries. In 1955, he lost the lower part of that leg due to a rare form of cancer."Acid-Tongued Joe Pyne Dies." ''Delaware County Times'' (Chester PA), 3/25/70, p. 1.


Radio

Discharged from the Marines at the end of World War II, Pyne attended a local drama school to correct a speech impediment. While studying there, he decided to try radio. He worked briefly in Lumberton, North Carolina, before he was hired at a new station, WPWA, in
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. After an argument with the owner he was fired.Don Murdaugh. "Joe Pyne Saw Tobacco Juice Fly." ''Chester Daily Times'', 4/22/59, p. 19. Next, he got a job at radio station WILM (AM) in Wilmington, Delaware, the first of three times he would work at that station. He moved to WVCH, a new station in Chester, which went on the air in March 1948. Seeing little chance to advance his career in Chester, Pyne left after a year and a half. He moved to Kenosha, Wisconsin, where he was hired at WLIP, owned by local station owner William Lipman (hence the call letters). After six months of hosting innocuous programs such as ''Meet Your Neighbor'' from various grocery stores, he quit during a confrontation with WLIP management in which he threw Lipman's typewriter against a wall. Pyne worked at several stations in
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, and began to change his style of broadcasting.


Call-in

Pyne gradually tired of being a disc jockey who made comments about politics and current events. He developed his on-air persona as an opinionated host who knew something about everything. He returned to WILM, where he debuted as a talk show host in 1950. He would later tell reporters that he first experimented with two-way talk during his time in Kenosha.Don Page. "Pyne Answers Final Call on Two-Way Radio." ''Los Angeles Times'', 21 February 1969, p. J1. His new show was unique. He named it ''It's Your Nickel'', a popular idiomatic phrase when a call from a pay phone cost five cents. The format was Pyne expressing his opinions on various topics. Listeners would call to ask questions, offer their own opinions, or raise new topics. At first, Pyne didn't put callers on the air; he paraphrased for the audience what they had said. Soon the callers and his interaction with them became the heart of the show. Pyne became famous for arguing with or insulting those with whom he disagreed. One of his trademark insults was "Go gargle with razor blades.""Killer Joe." ''Time'' magazine, 29 July 1966, p. 30.


Television

By the early 1950s, television was replacing radio as America's main medium. In 1954, Pyne moved to television with ''The Joe Pyne Show'', broadcast by WDEL-TV in Wilmington. In 1957, he moved to
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. His initial show was unsuccessful, and he returned to Wilmington. He hosted a TV talk show on WVUE, which was also seen in Philadelphia, and received positive reviews from critics. In the late 1950s the local black press generally praised him for inviting black newsmakers on his show to discuss issues of concern to their community. One of his regular guests was a member of the editorial staff of the area's black newspaper, the '' Philadelphia Tribune'', usually a columnist or the newspaper's publisher."Tribune Comptroller Scores on TV Show." Philadelphia Tribune, 8 July 1958, p. 2 Pyne continued this program until late 1959, when he returned to Los Angeles. This time, he was more successful. By 1960, he was hosting a radio show on KABC (AM). The acerbic Bob Grant took over Pyne's show in 1964, and Pyne continued on KLAC. This led to a television show on KTTV. In 1965, during the Watts Riots in Los Angeles, Pyne was interviewing a black militant on his TV show. At one point, Pyne opened his coat to reveal that he was carrying a handgun. His guest did likewise. The station suspended Pyne for one week as a result of this stunt, which led to both the
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considering pulling KTTV's license ''and'' syndication companies looking at distributing Pyne's show nationally. Later that year, "The Joe Pyne Show" went into wide syndication, carried by as many as 85 television stations (and 250 radio stations) at its peak. At the height of his fame, he was making $200,000 annually. At the beginning of each show he was introduced by an announcer as "the loveable, but opinionated Joe Pyne!" In 1966,
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gave Pyne a daytime game show called ''Showdown''. Its distinguishing feature was that contestants who missed a question would fall to the floor in a breakaway chair. ''Showdown'' lasted only three months and was replaced by '' The Hollywood Squares'', which aired for 14 years until 1980.


Confrontations and controversy

Pyne spoke out against
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and supported the
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. He ridiculed hippies (a favorite target),
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, and
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. Though generally a conservative, Pyne spoke in favor of
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. His tendency toward insult and vitriol offended most critics, who called him "outrageous," "belligerent," and "self-righteous."Lawrence Laurent. "Joe Pyne is Outrageous." ''Washington Post'', 22 July 1966, p. C7. Groups such as the
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accused him of catering to bigots. There are many documented cases of Pyne getting into altercations with people on his show. He preferred controversial guests such as Anton Szandor Lavey,
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and invited members of the
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, the
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, and followers of murderer
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. Pyne argued this was educational, since it exposed these violent groups to the public eye.Bob Rose. "Pyne Sneers All the Way to the Bank." ''Corpus Christi Caller-Times'', 8/20/67, p. 19. ''The Joe Pyne Show'' was not only verbally confrontational: at times the conflict became physical, with chairs being thrown at Pyne by the interviewee. If the "discussion" got too heated, the guest would often walk off, or Pyne would himself throw the guest off the show, with the parting comment, "take a hike." Still, Pyne once described himself as an "overly compensating introvert." A notorious story of a confrontation on Pyne's television show involves guest
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, the editor of ''
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''. Pyne made insulting remarks about Krassner's acne scars. Without missing a beat, Krassner asked Pyne if his wooden leg caused any difficulty in having sex with his wife. Pyne was bewildered, so he sought comments from his audience, which, at this point in his career, was made up of whomever KTTV could bring in from
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. The audience happened to include musician and activist
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, whom Krassner had brought along to the studio. Ochs very calmly remarked, "What Paul Krassner has just done is in the finest tradition of American journalism." No video of this incident survives; Krassner insists that it occurred, but was edited out of the broadcast. A similar exchange reportedly occurred with
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: Pyne is reported to have said "I guess your long hair makes you a woman", to which Zappa responded "So I guess your wooden leg makes you a table."
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, a black author, political activist, and creator of
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, was a frequent guest on the show, as was Robert Dornan (" B-1 Bob"), who became a congressman from Orange County. Gay activists Harry Hay and John Burnside—who were a couple from 1962 until Hay's death in 2002—appeared on Pyne's show in 1967.


Movies

In the 1966 film '' Unkissed Bride'' (aka '' Mother Goose A Go-Go'') Pyne appears as himself hosting a portion of his radio show discussing psychiatrists, and then later in a car with his wife out for dinner, and including a chauffeur who answers a car phone call from someone calling him as if he's still hosting the phone-in radio show. The 1969 film ''
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'' includes a brief clip of a fictional TV talk show similar to Pyne's, with screenwriter
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appearing in a cameo as the host.


Death

Pyne developed
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from his smoking habit, and died in
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on March 23, 1970, at age 45 and was cremated.


References


External links


TV Party: Joe PyneJoe Pyne video clips
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''The Joe Pyne Show'' at IMDB
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