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James Methven (7 December 1868 – 25 March 1953), was a
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. Methven became synonymous with
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; he played for the club in three
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s and managed the club for 16 years. In total Methven was on the books at the
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for 31 years and represented the club, in one capacity or another, in over 1000 matches. Methven, though born in Ceres,
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, first played senior football in
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, for
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, Heart of Midlothian and St Bernard's. He joined a growing band of Scottish professionals in English football when he signed forms with
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at the end of the 1890-91 season. Under
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Derby endured a period of great frustration, never fulfilling what talent that team had and Methven was involved in all the matches that mattered. In total he played 511 games and (was one of three players who) appeared in each of the three unsuccessful
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appearances for the Rams, before taking the reins as manager immediately following Harry Newbould's departure in 1906. He last played for the club (at the age of 38) on 2 February 1907, in an FA Cup Second Round tie against Lincoln City, which Derby won 1-0. Methven was unable to stop the slide into the Second Division during his first season with the club and only converted the club's wayward fortunes when he persuaded the 36-year-old
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to return home from Middlesbrough in 1910, helping Derby County back to the First Division as deserved champions in 1912. Methven finally left Derby in June 1922 having been in charge for 498 games (winning more than he lost) finally working for a local authority after a stint as a scout with
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Jimmy "Logie" Methven profile
originally published in the Derby Evening Telegraph, October 2000.

of Jimmy Methven {{DEFAULTSORT:Methven, Jimmy 1868 births Scottish footballers Heart of Midlothian F.C. players Derby County F.C. players Scottish Football League players English Football League players Scottish football managers Derby County F.C. managers English Football League managers 1953 deaths Leith Athletic F.C. players St Bernard's F.C. players Association football defenders Sportspeople from Fife FA Cup Final players Scottish baseball players