For All We Know (1970 Song)
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"For All We Know" is a
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song written for the 1970
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'', with music by Fred Karlin and lyrics by Robb Wilson (
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) and James Arthur Griffin (
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), both from the American soft rock group
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. It was originally performed, for the film's soundtrack, by Larry Meredith and won the
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in 1971. The best known version of the song is by American pop duo
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which reached No. 3 on the US ''Billboard'' Hot 100 chart and No. 1 on the US ''Billboard'' Easy Listening chart in 1971. The song was also a hit for
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at the same time in the United Kingdom. It has since been covered by various artists, including
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.


The Carpenters version

Richard Carpenter of
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heard the song during an evening of relaxation at the movies while on tour. He decided it would be ideal for the duo. It became a hit for them in
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, reaching No. 3 on the ''Billboard'' Hot 100 singles chart, spending seven weeks in the Top 10, and No. 1 for three weeks on the US
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. It also became Carpenters' third consecutive top-five single in the ''Billboard'' Hot 100. According to Richard, the intro was originally played on guitar. They had run into
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in a restaurant, who was a big fan of theirs and wanted to play on one of their records. They went into the studio and the intro was devised by Feliciano, using his nylon string
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. The next day, though, Richard got a phone call from Feliciano's manager, demanding that he be removed from the recording. Richard essentially did as requested and replaced Feliciano's guitar intro with that of Earle Dumler's oboe. The other instruments heard on the song were recorded by session musicians later known as the Wrecking Crew. When the original song was nominated for an Academy Award, the Carpenters were not allowed to perform it at the ceremony because they had not appeared in any film. At their request, the song was performed by British singer
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. In 1972, Richard and Karen appeared on Tom Jones's ''London Bridge Special'', where they performed "For All We Know". This version was not released to the public until 2000, with the release of the compilation '' The Singles: 1969–1981''.


Personnel

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and
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* Richard Carpenter – backing vocals,
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,
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,
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,
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*Earle Dumler –
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Charts


Weekly charts


Year-end charts

Note *Released as a double A-side with "
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" in the UK


Shirley Bassey version

The song became a hit in the UK for Welsh singer
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in 1971, at the same time as the Carpenters' version, with the two songs competing for chart strength. Bassey's version peaked at No. 6 during a 24-week chart run. It also reached No. 20 in Ireland.


Petula Clark version

British singer, actress, and songwriter
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gave a heart-rending version of the song during her show at the
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on February 6, 1983, in tribute to Karen Carpenter, who had died two days before.


Nicki French version

English singer
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released a cover of "For All We Know" in 1995 via labels Bags of Fun and Love This, which was included on her debut album, '' Secrets'' (1995). The song peaked at No. 31 in Scotland, No. 42 on the UK Singles Chart and No. 89 in Australia. A music video was also produced to promote the single.


Critical reception

Steve Baltin from ''
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'' wrote, "French follows up her surprise
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hit cover of
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's '
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' by giving the same treatment to
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' 'For All We Know'. Sounding as if
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could've done it, 'For All We Know' has a blatant
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feel. Look for this to be a club smash that crosses over to appeal to many of the same fans that made 'Total Eclipse..' a smash." Pan-European magazine ''
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'' commented, "Introduce new names through new workings of old songs, that's Bags of Fun's function for parent company Love This. French's second single is a jumpy dance version of a Carpenters hit."


Charts


See also

* ''If I Were a Carpenter'' (1994) * List of number-one adult contemporary singles of 1971 (U.S.)


References


External links

* {{authority control 1970 songs 1971 singles 1970s ballads Songs with music by Fred Karlin Songs written by Jimmy Griffin Songs written by Robb Royer A&M Records singles The Carpenters songs Shirley Bassey songs Andy Williams songs Johnny Mathis songs Nicki French songs Best Original Song Academy Award–winning songs