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Florence Steinberg (March 17, 1939 – July 23, 2017) was an American
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of one of the first
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s, the underground/
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'', in 1975. Additionally, as the secretary for
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editor
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and the fledgling company's receptionist and fan liaison during the 1960s
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, she was a key participant of and witness to Marvel's expansion from a two-person staff to a
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conglomerate. Steinberg appeared in fictionalized form in Marvel Comics, spoke at comic book conventions and was the subject of a magazine profile.


Early life

The daughter of a taxi-driver father and a public- stenographer mother, Steinberg was born in
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Steinberg in and raised in that city's Dorchester and
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neighborhoods. Steinberg was
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and attended Roxbury Memorial High School for Girls, serving a term as president of the
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. Steinberg majored in History at the
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, where she was a sister of
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and received her B.A. in 1960. In 1962, while working as a service representative for the
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in Boston, she was a volunteer on Ted Kennedy's first senatorial campaign. After moving to New York City in 1963, Steinberg additionally worked in what she said was "a minor way" for Robert F. Kennedy's 1964 senate campaign.


Career


Marvel Comics in the Silver Age

In March 1963, Steinberg moved to New York City, and in the career-girl fashion of that era spent some months living at a
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and job-hunting through employment agencies. "After a couple of interviews, I was sent to this publishing company called
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," she said in a 2002 interview. "There I met a fellow by the name of
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, who was looking for what they called then a ' gal Friday' ... Stan had a one-man office on a huge floor of other offices, which housed the many parts of the magazine division ... Magazine Management published
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as well as a lot of
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magazines, confession magazines, detective magazines ... Each department took turns, one day a week, covering the switchboard...when the regular operator took her lunch break". Marvel's only staffers at that time were Lee and Steinberg herself, with the rest of the work handled freelance. De facto production manager
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"would come in and set up an extra little drawing board where he would do the paste-ups and mechanicals for the ads," Steinberg said. She recalled that the "first real Bullpen" — the roomful of artists at drawing boards making corrections, preparing art for printing, and, as envisioned later within Marvel's letter pages and "
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", a mythologized clubhouse in which the likes of Lee,
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,
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and others would be found kibitzing — was created when Marvel moved downtown a few buildings from 655 Madison Avenue to 635 Madison Avenue. "Stan finally had his own office. There was a big space with windows where I was, and Sol Brodsky, now on staff, had his own desk"."Flo Steinberg Interview", p. 10-B She said that at the time, " u were lucky to make $60 a week starting ... and Stan offered me $65, which was a big incentive to sign on!". In addition to serving as Lee's secretary, Steinberg coordinated with and cajoled artists to turn their work in by deadline, responded to fans' letters, including sending paying members the
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to be examined in order to carry the industry's self-censorship Comics Code seal. She also had to field uninvited fans who would appear at the office, hoping to meet the comics creators. " ople started coming up to the office. And I would have to go out and see what they wanted. And little kids would try to run by me ... and I would have to trip them. ... Everyone thought that it was nice that the kids were coming up, but at the same time ... this was a business, y'know." Artist
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once recalled, The all-purpose Steinberg — given the sobriquet "Fabulous Flo", in the manner of many other Marvel Comics endearments — said that she Steinberg became exposed to the
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scene after meeting and becoming friends with
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, who had come to the Marvel offices to interview Lee for the ''
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. Through her, Steinberg became acquainted with contributors to the New York City underground paper the ''
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'', and met underground
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, who succeeded Steinberg at Marvel in 1968, wrote in ''
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'':


Later career

Steinberg left Marvel in 1968. "I was just tired. The last years were so long because the fan mail was overwhelming. Bags of it would come in, and all the letters had to be acknowledged". The position itself, even after five years, was not particularly well-paid, and Steinberg quit after not receiving a $5 raise. Recalling the day of Steinberg's going-away party,
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observed in 2002: A "Marvel Bullpen Bulletins" page in Marvel comics
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February 1969 and necessarily written two to three months earlier noted that Steinberg "has a great new job at
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". Working for the trade group the
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, she edited pamphlets and technical manuals for 2 1/2 years, leaving when the organization relocated to Washington, D.C.Steinberg in Salicrup, Zimmerman, p. 68. By this time she had become friends with New York City
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cartoonists including
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,
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, Michelle Brand and
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. After those artists moved to
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, the center of the underground comix scene, Steinberg in the latter half of 1970 moved there as well. She befriended cartoonists including
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and worked for
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's San Francisco Comic Book Company before leaving the city after a year. Steinberg moved back to her family in Boston for a short while and then returned to New York City. There, she recalled in 1984, her Marvel-artist friend
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"had a studio in the upper 80s f Manhattanthat he wasn't using so I stayed there and went job hunting." Steinberg found work running Captain Company, the mail-order division of the
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, staying three years. She spoke at a 1974 New York Comic Art Convention panel on the role of women in comics, alongside
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, Jean Thomas (sometime-collaborator of then-husband
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) and fan representative Irene Vartanoff. In 1975, Steinberg published ''
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'', a seminal link between underground comix and modern-day independent comics, with contributors including such mainstream talents as
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, and
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. Critic Ken Jones, in a 1986 retrospective review, suggested that ''Big Apple Comix'' and
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's ''High Adventure'' may have been "the first true alternative comics". As of 1984, she was managing editor of the Manhattan-based ''
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''. In the 1990s, Steinberg returned to work for Marvel as a proofreader, and continued in that role at least part-time through 2017.


Homages

A fictionalized Steinberg starred alongside
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, and
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 — all transformed into a Marvel Bullpen version of the
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 — in the alternate-reality comic ''
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'' #11 (Oct. 1978). Written and drawn by Kirby, the odd tale featured Steinberg as the character then called the Invisible Girl. In the alternate universe series ''
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'' #28 (May 2006), writer
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added a brief tribute to Steinberg. She serves as the secretary to President
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on an Earth populated almost entirely by superheroes. She warns the
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not to burn the rug, to which he replies, "I know, I know. No need to be such a nag, Miss Steinberg".


Death

Steinberg was 77 when she died in July 2017, from brain aneurysm complications and metastatic lung cancer. In a statement, Marvel eulogised Steinberg as having "… always been the heart of Marvel and a legend in her own right." She was announced to be interred at the Jewish cemetery in
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References


Further reading

* "Special Fabulous Flo Steinberg Celebration", ''
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'' #18, April 2002 * ''The Great Women Superheroes'', by
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(
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, 1996); index entries, pp. 129, 133. * ''Women and the Comics'', by Trina Robbins and
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, 1985); index entry, p. 104 * ''Marvel: Five Fabulous Decades of the World's Greatest Comics'', by Les Daniels (Harry Abrams, 1991); index entries, pp. 103–105, 107, 128. * "Jack Kirby Tribute", ''
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'' #167 (April 1994), p. 1-19. Brief tributes by many comics professionals, including Steinberg * Letter-to-the-editor, ''Inside Comics'' #2 (Summer 1974)


External links

* * * "Interview with the Invisible Woman, Flo Steinberg", ''Jack Kirby Collector'' #18 (Jan. 1998), p. 45-46 * Pratt, Doug
"Face Front! You're on the Winning Team!"
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