For All We Know (1970 song)
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"For All We Know" is a soft rock song written for the 1970 film ''
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'', with music by Fred Karlin and lyrics by Robb Wilson (
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) and Arthur James (
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). Both Royer and Griffin were founding members of the soft rock group Bread. It was originally performed, for the film's soundtrack, by Larry Meredith. The best known version of the song is by American pop duo
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which reached No. 3 on the US ''Billboard'' Hot 100 chart and No. 1 on the US ''Billboard'' Easy Listening chart in 1971. The song was also a hit for Shirley Bassey at the same time in the United Kingdom. It has since been covered by various artists including
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. The song became a gold record. It won the Academy Award for Best Original Song in 1971.


The Carpenters version

Richard Carpenter of
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heard the song during an evening of relaxation at the movies while on tour. He decided it would be ideal for the duo. It became a hit for them in 1971, reaching No. 3 on the ''Billboard'' Hot 100 singles chart and No. 1 for three weeks on the US easy listening chart. When the original song was nominated for an Academy Award, the Carpenters were not allowed to perform it at the ceremony as they had not appeared in a film. At their request, the song was performed by British singer
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. (Clark would later perform the song in concert on February 6, 1983, in tribute to Karen Carpenter, who had died two days before.) According to Richard, the intro was originally played on guitar. They had run into
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in a restaurant, who was a big fan of theirs and wanted to play on one of their records. They went into the studio and the intro was devised by Feliciano, using his nylon string acoustic guitar. The next day, though, Richard got a phone call from Feliciano's manager, demanding that he be removed from the recording. Richard essentially did as requested and replaced Feliciano's guitar intro with that of Earle Dumler's oboe. The other instruments heard on the song were recorded by session musicians later known as the Wrecking Crew. In 1972, Richard and Karen appeared on Tom Jones's ''London Bridge Special'', where they performed "For All We Know". This version was not released to the public until 2000, with the release of '' The Singles: 1969–1981''.


Personnel

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Karen Carpenter Karen Anne Carpenter (March 2, 1950 – February 4, 1983) was an American singer and drummer, who formed half of the sibling duo the Carpenters alongside her older brother Richard. With a distinctive three-octave contralto range, she was prais ...
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and
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* Richard Carpenter – backing vocals,
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, Hammond organ,
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, orchestration * Joe Osborn
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*
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drums *Earle Dumler –
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Charts


Weekly charts


Year-end charts

Note *Released as a double A-side with "
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" in the UK


Shirley Bassey version

The song became a hit in the UK for Welsh singer Shirley Bassey in 1971, at the same time as the Carpenters' version, with the two songs competing for chart strength. Bassey's version peaked at No. 6 during a 24-week chart run. It also reached No. 20 in Ireland.


Petula Clark version

Petula Clark Petula Sally Olwen Clark, CBE (born 15 November 1932) is an English singer, actress, and composer. She has one of the longest serving careers of a British singer, spanning more than seven decades. Clark's professional career began during the ...
gave a heart-rending version of the song during her show at the
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on February 6 1983, in tribute to Karen Carpenter, who had died two days before.


Nicki French version

English singer
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released a cover of "For All We Know" in 1995, which was included on her debut album, '' Secrets'' (1995). The song peaked at No. 31 in Scotland, No. 42 on the
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and No. 89 in Australia. A
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was also produced to promote the single.


Critical reception

Steve Baltin from '' Cash Box'' wrote, "French follows up her surprise dance hit cover of
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’s "
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" by giving the same treatment to
the Carpenters The Carpenters (officially known as Carpenters) were an American vocal and instrumental duo consisting of siblings Karen (1950–1983) and Richard Carpenter (born 1946). They produced a distinct, soft, musical style, combining Karen's contr ...
’ "For All We Know". Sounding as if Donna Summer could’ve done it, "For All We Know" has a blatant disco feel. Look for this to be a club smash that crosses over to appeal to many of the same fans that made "Total Eclipse.." a smash."


Charts


See also

* ''If I Were a Carpenter'' (1994) *
List of number-one adult contemporary singles of 1971 (U.S.) Adult Contemporary is a chart published by ''Billboard'' ranking the top-performing songs in the United States in the adult contemporary music (AC) market. In 1971, 19 songs topped the chart, then published under the title Easy Listening, based ...


References


External links

* {{authority control 1970 songs 1971 singles 1970s ballads Songs with music by Fred Karlin Songs written by Jimmy Griffin Songs written by Robb Royer A&M Records singles The Carpenters songs Shirley Bassey songs Andy Williams songs Johnny Mathis songs Nicki French songs Best Original Song Academy Award-winning songs Songs written for films