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''Chinese Democracy'' is the sixth studio album by American hard rock band Guns N' Roses, released on November 23, 2008, by Black Frog and
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. It was the first Guns N' Roses studio album since the 1993 covers album ''
"The Spaghetti Incident?" ''"The Spaghetti Incident?"'' is the fifth studio album by the American hard rock band Guns N' Roses. The album is composed of covers of older punk rock, hard rock, and other songs. ''"The Spaghetti Incident?"'' is the only studio album to ...
'', and their first album of original studio material since ''
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'' and '' II'' (1991). It was the first Guns N' Roses album without their longtime producer
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; instead, it was produced by singer
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and Caram Costanzo. It underwent a protracted recording process, delayed by personnel and legal problems, label interference and Rose's perfectionism. From 1994 to 1997, amid creative and personal differences, guitarists Gilby Clarke and
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, drummer
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, and bassist
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left Guns N' Roses, leaving only Rose, keyboardist
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, and guitarist
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. In 1997, Rose, Reed, and Tobias began work with guitarist
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and drummer Josh Freese, and in 1998 bassist
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and multi-instrumentalist
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joined them. The lineup shifted several times, incorporating guitarists
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,
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and
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and drummers
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and
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. Guitarist
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, vocalist
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, orchestrators Marco Beltrami and Paul Buckmaster, engineer
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, and producers including
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,
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, and Caram Costanzo worked on the album across 14 studios. The band recorded dozens of songs and suggested they could release them across multiple albums. ''Chinese Democracy'' languished in development hell for eight years. Geffen originally planned to release it in 1999, but it was delayed and largely rerecorded in 2000. With costs reportedly exceeding $13 million, it became the most expensive rock album ever produced, and Geffen pulled their funding in early 2004. After missing a release date of March 2007, it was finally released in November 2008, dogged by leaks and legal disputes. Preceded by the
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as a lead single, ''Chinese Democracy'' debuted at number three on the ''Billboard'' 200, and was
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. However, it did not meet sales expectations in the United States. It received divisive but generally favorable reviews, achieved international chart success, and has sold over one million copies in Europe.


Background

In September 1991, Guns N' Roses released the albums ''
Use Your Illusion I ''Use Your Illusion I'' is the third studio album by American hard rock band Guns N' Roses, released on September 17, 1991, the same day as its counterpart ''Use Your Illusion II''. Both albums were released in conjunction with the Use Your Illu ...
'' and ''
Use Your Illusion II ''Use Your Illusion II'' is the fourth studio album by the American hard rock band Guns N' Roses. The album was released on September 17, 1991, the same day as its counterpart '' Use Your Illusion I''. Both albums were released in conjunction wit ...
'', which have sold a combined 35 million copies. In November 1991, during the
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, rhythm guitarist and founding member
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abruptly left the band, citing touring exhaustion and conflicts with his bandmates. He was replaced by Gilby Clarke. In November 1993, Guns N' Roses released ''
"The Spaghetti Incident?" ''"The Spaghetti Incident?"'' is the fifth studio album by the American hard rock band Guns N' Roses. The album is composed of covers of older punk rock, hard rock, and other songs. ''"The Spaghetti Incident?"'' is the only studio album to ...
'', an album of covers of mostly
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and punk rock songs. Though it was certified platinum in 1994, it sold significantly less than their previous releases. Guns N' Roses began writing and recording new music sporadically in 1994. However, bassist
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said the band "was so stoned at that point that nothing got finished". Guitarist
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accused singer
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of running the band "like a dictatorship". Rose said the material was scrapped because the band was unable to collaborate. In 1994, Clarke was replaced by Rose's childhood friend and
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collaborator
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. Around this time, Rose became "obsessed" with electronica and
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, particularly the work of Nine Inch Nails, and wanted Guns N' Roses to move towards a more contemporary musical direction. Other members did not agree, causing a rift. Slash left in 1996 following creative differences with Rose and personal problems with Tobias. New band members auditioned, including guitarist
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and drummers
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and
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, with Reed's friend and roommate Sean Riggs working as a session drummer sporadically during the mid 90s. Slash was replaced in January 1997 by former Nine Inch Nails touring guitarist
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. In February 1997, electronic producer Moby entered talks to produce; he said: "They're writing with a lot of loops, and believe it or not, they're doing it better than anybody I've heard lately." Moby pulled out to focus on his solo work. Longtime Guns N' Roses producer
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is also reported to have been in talks to work on the album that year.
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worked as
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engineer during the album's early development. He said: "I came in, to start, making sounds for Robin Finck, and that kind of turned into this two-and-a-half-year gig with the band." In April 1997, following drummer
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's firing after an argument with Rose about Tobias's inclusion, the tentative lineup comprised Rose, McKagan, Tobias, Finck, keyboardist
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, and Nine Inch Nails touring drummer
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. After Vrenna left, Josh Freese was hired as full-time drummer in mid-1997. McKagan, who had recently become a father, left in August 1997. According to McKagan, "Guns had been paying rent on studios for three years now—from 1994 to 1997—and still did not have a single song. The whole operation was so erratic that it didn't seem to fit with my hopes for parenthood, for stability." According to manager Doug Goldstein,
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,
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, and Mark Bell were considered as producers.
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joined as second keyboardist and multi-instrumentalist in early 1998. Shortly afterwards, at the recommendation of Freese, former Replacements bassist
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joined. By spring of 1998, Guns N' Roses comprised Rose on vocals, Stinson on bass, Freese on drums, Finck on lead guitar, Tobias on rhythm guitar, and Reed and Pitman on keyboards. They began recording at Rumbo Recorders, a studio in the San Fernando Valley where Guns N' Roses had recorded parts of ''Appetite for Destruction''. Around this time, Geffen paid Rose $1 million to finish the album and offered a further $1 million if he submitted it by March 1, 1999.


Recording

In the summer of 1998,
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, who had produced U2 and
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, was brought in to work on demos and help Rose focus. Youth felt that Rose was not ready to record a new album: "He kind of pulled out ... He was quite isolated. There weren't very many people I think he could trust. It was very difficult to penetrate the walls he'd built up." Frustrated, Youth left the project. Rose later told ''
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'' he had stopped writing for years in the mid-1990s because of criticism from Slash and McKagan and his ex-fiancée Stephanie Seymour. The band worked with producer
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from autumn 1998 to spring 2000. Stinson said that "most of the songs on the album started and ended with what eavandid". Beavan worked with the band when Rose recorded most of the vocal tracks that appear on the final album in 1999. Rose's vocal parts were recorded in less than a week. Beavan claimed to have worked on 35 songs during his time with the band. By the summer of 1999, Guns N' Roses had recorded over 30 songs and the album was tentatively titled ''2000 Intentions''. In May 1999,
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guitarist
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recorded lead guitar for the song "Catcher in the Rye" and other unreleased songs, but his performances were removed. May was not informed and wrote on his website in 2008: "I did put quite a lot of work in, and was proud of it. But I could understand if Axl wants to have an album which reflects the work of the members of the band as it is, right now." Rose ordered the studio engineers to continue recording ideas the band came up with in his absence. He was sent several CDs and DATs a week, featuring different mixes of possible songs. Eventually, he accumulated over 1000 CDs. In 1999, Rose temporarily abandoned the album so the new lineup could rerecord Guns N' Roses' debut album ''
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'' (1987), with the intent of using newer recording techniques to "spruce up" ''Appetite''. According to Rose, this forced the new members to "get up to the quality they needed to be at" and helped the writing and recording process.


Title announcement and "Oh My God"

During a 1999 interview, Rose announced the title ''Chinese Democracy'', saying: "There's a lot of
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s, and it's something that there's a lot of talk about, and it's something that will be nice to see. It could also just be like an ironic statement. I don't know, I just like the sound of it." Rose also said the album would feature a "melting pot" of varied sounds, including several heavy and aggressive songs. In late November 1999, Rose played several tracks for ''
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'', who likened the new sound to "
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's '' Physical Graffiti'' remixed by Beck and
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". In 1997 and 1998, sources had described the album as different from previous Guns N' Roses records, with an
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influence. Chris Vrenna said that Rose wanted to create an album similar to U2 and Brian Eno's collaboration ''
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''. Though it was often reported as an
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album, in 2001 Rose said: "It is not industrial ... There will be all kinds of styles, many influences as blues, mixed in the songs." Rose said in 1999 that the band had recorded enough material for at least two albums, including the potential for an album more industrial and electronic than ''Chinese Democracy''. Sources said the band's initial plans were to record two albums, release ''Chinese Democracy'', tour for a year or two, then release the second album without having to return to the studio. In November 1999, Guns N' Roses released their first new track in five years and the first original song in eight years, the industrial metal song "
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", featured in the film '' End of Days'' and released on the soundtrack. The song features Rose, Tobias, Stinson, Reed, Pitman, Finck, and Freese, along with guitarists Dave Navarro (of
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) and Gary Sunshine. "Oh My God" received mixed reviews;
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described it as "a less than satisfying comeback". ''Rolling Stone'' suggested the release was a stopgap to pacify fans and offset the mounting recording costs. Beavan, who produced the track, said it was included on soundtrack at the request of
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, the head of Geffen, who had picked it for the film after listening to several work-in-progress songs.


Lineup changes, Roy Thomas Baker joins as producer and rerecording

While work was being finished on "Oh My God", Finck left to rejoin Nine Inch Nails. In January 2000, band manager Doug Goldstein said the album was "99% done" and was set "for a summer 2000 release". In a February 2000 ''Rolling Stone'' interview, Rose said the album had been delayed partially because he was learning how to use new recording technology: "It's like from scratch, learning how to work with something, and not wanting it just to be something you did on a computer." In March 2000, Rose hired guitarist
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to replace Finck. According to ''
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'', Buckethead's eccentric stage persona – he wore a blank white mask and a KFC bucket on his head – made him the "negative image of top-hatted, easygoing Slash", and rumors spread that Buckethead was Slash in disguise. Shortly afterwards, Josh Freese left to join
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, a band recently formed by Howerdel, who had left the project several months earlier. At the recommendation of Buckethead, frequent collaborator
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was brought in as drummer. Before the end of spring 2000, Beavan left the project. At this time the album was nearly complete, but after Rose hired Queen producer
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to replace Beavan, he was persuaded to do re-recording work on the entire album. Baker felt Freese's drums needed to be rerecorded, as they sounded too "industrial"; Brain said they sounded digital, with "not a lot of air moving". Rose felt that the finished album should reflect the "energy" of those who worked on it, and so felt Freese's drums should be replaced. Geffen employee Tom Zutaut said that Freese's drumming was spectacular". He said: "I would not have wanted to be in Brain's shoes. Basically we were saying to
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'We have got a brilliant performance of this and now we need you to recreate it'." Rose had Brain learn Freese's parts note by note; Brain had the parts transcribed, then played them from a
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before trying the songs again in his style. According to Brain, he recorded his parts in eight months and the final album features a hybrid of his and Freese's styles.
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replaced Brain in 2006, who said: "I did a few tracks with Brain and he told me to just make the songs my own. It wasn't so much conscious writing as focusing on how the music made me feel and not overthinking it." According to Ferrer, he is the only drummer on the title track; the rest of the album features drums by Brain and Ferrer, using Freese's arrangements. Bassist
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stated he had to rerecord his bass parts with each change in drummer, saying "I probably ended up completely re-recording each part five or six times over the years." Stinson was later critical of the rerecording process, stating that Baker "wasted many years and many millions of dollars trying to get us better sounds that we could have addressed in the mixing stage." At the end of Nine Inch Nail's
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in July 2000, Finck rejoined the band. Rose had previously threatened to remove Finck's parts from the album after seeing Finck perform with Nine Inch Nails at the 1999 MTV Video Music Awards. Composers Marco Beltrami and Paul Buckmaster worked on orchestral arrangements. In 2003, Beltrami said of the experience: "I met with Axl and he played me these songs, asked me my ideas about them... I actually wrote some melodies and stuff. The music was eclectic and at the time that I was doing it there were no lyrics on the songs that I was working on."


Tom Zutaut joins

In February 2001, Jimmy Iovine, the head of Geffen, asked Tom Zutaut, whom the label had fired two years previously, to help Guns N' Roses complete ''Chinese Democracy''. Zutaut was the
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who had discovered the band and guided them through the recording of their previous albums. After they had resolved some personal differences, Rose told Zutaut of his frustrations in finding the sounds he wanted; for example, he had instructed the production team to recreate the drum sound of
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's 1991 album ''
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'', but was not satisfied with the results. With Zutaut's intervention, the team recreated the sound to Rose's satisfaction. After having Zutaut approved by Rose's personal psychic, whom Rose believed could assess auras from photographs, Rose arranged for Geffen to pay Zutaut "whatever it takes". Zutaut's only concession was to defer some of his payment until the album was delivered, but the album missed the deadline. Zutaut said Guns N' Roses had 50 to 60 songs in development during this period. By this point, Buckethead had left, following disagreements with Baker and frustrations over the lack of progress. Zutaut persuaded him to rejoin by installing a giant chicken coop in the studio for him to work in, with furniture, straw, chicken wire, and rubber chicken parts. Zutaut described it as "part chicken coop, part horror movie ... You could almost smell the chickens." Only assistant engineers were allowed to enter, to adjust microphones. Rose's assistant Beta Lebeis downplayed the coop as inexpensive and fun, saying, "It didn't cost money or anything – think about it, it's just wire ... It's something you do in three or four hours. Just for fun, to play a joke on somebody." However, according to Zutaut, the coop caused friction when Buckethead began using it to watch hardcore pornography, disturbing Rose. Zutaut told an interviewer that, after one of Rose's dogs defecated in the coop, Buckethead insisted it not be cleaned up as he liked the smell. After three days, the smell had become overwhelming and the studio staff removed it, upsetting Buckethead. At Interscope's request, Zutaut investigated the project's budget. He found that the band was spending thousands of dollars a month on rented gear that went unused, and he made changes that he estimated saved around $75,000 a month. Additionally, Rose kept erratic hours, which meant that the salaried musicians, engineers, and assistants were often unable to work. Zutaut said: "These fucking people are getting paid shitloads of money and they're sitting on their arse doing nothing because Axl's not coming to the studio and they can't get him on the phone." Zutaut tried to convince Rose to release ''Chinese Democracy'' as a solo album, feeling it would sell better. However, Rose said in 2008: "I didn't make a solo record. A solo record would be completely different than this and probably much more instrumental. The songs were chosen by everyone involved." Lebeis said in March 2001 that 48 songs had been completed, and that Geffen had begun selecting them for the album. Zutaut estimated that Guns N' Roses had 50 or 60 songs in development. He went through each with Rose, trying to decide which were worth finishing. According to Zutaut, during his time with the band they completed versions of "The Blues", "Madagascar", "Chinese Democracy" and "Atlas Shrugged".


Zutaut and Baker exit

For his 2001 film '' Black Hawk Down'', the filmmaker Ridley Scott asked to use the 1987 Guns N' Roses song "
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", from their debut album ''Appetite for Destruction.'' According to Zutaut, Rose already had new band members rerecord the entirety of ''Appetite for Destruction'' as part of their induction, and so a day was spent mixing one of these versions. Rose attended a screening of ''Black Hawk Down'' arranged by Zutaut; however, when he realized it was not a private screening, he fired Zutaut. Zutaut claims he was "set up", a claim disputed by Rose. Zutaut claimed that, by this time, around 11 or 12 tracks were complete but for final mixes, and that the album could have been complete by September 2002. Baker left the project a few months later.


Tour

On January 1, 2001, Guns N' Roses played at the
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in
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, Nevada, their first concert in over seven years. This was followed by their headlining performance at Rock in Rio III on January 14, 2001, to an audience of 190,000 people. On August 29, 2002, they made a surprise visit to the MTV
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in New York; their set included one new song, "Madagascar". Guitarist
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joined in 2002; he said all but his contribution, the chorus to "Better", had been written by the time he joined, and that some riffs on the final album date back to Slash's time in the band. In August 2002, Rose stated on the Guns N' Roses website: "We feel that we have clarity as to the album we're trying to make, we're wrapping it up. We've sorted it down to what songs are on the record, what the sequence of the songs is. The album art is ready." Shortly afterwards, however, he told MTV News: "You'll see
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but I don't know if 'soon' is the word". Reed said in November 2002 that the album would be released by June 2003 and that there were only "a few odds and ends left to do, a couple of finishing touches, a couple of vocals – and we need to mix it". Rose also confirmed plans for multiple albums, and said the delay was a partly due to lack of support from Geffen for older bands, saying: "I've had to do way more jobs in it than I'm supposed to. I've had to be manager, A&R man, producer, sole lyric writer, and a lot of other things." In 2003, radio DJ
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played a demo of "I.R.S." leaked to him by
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catcher
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. He likened it to "''Use Your Illusion''-era stuff, with some modern flairs to it. The song had a loop track in the beginning, but then, when it kicked in, it was that same dramatic Guns N' Roses hard rock." In mid-2003, Guns N' Roses reportedly started rerecording ''Chinese Democracy'' again. A music journalist said Rose told him in June 2003 that "he wants to make sure it is a perfect as possible before it is released". In 2004, Stinson said ''Chinese Democracy'' was "almost done" and had been delayed by "legal issues" and because Rose wanted to ensure every band member had a say in each song: "It's a lengthy process because you have to get eight people to basically write a song together that everyone likes." He also said Rose was a perfectionist; an engineer working on the album said: "Axl wanted to make the best record that had ever been made. It's an impossible task. You could go on infinitely, which is what they've done." Stinson later said:
What really happened was the record company stood back and left Axl to his own devices. He had to basically produce himself, and that's not what he (wanted to do)... the record company really dropped the ball on this one ... everything changed when Geffen merged with Interscope. Axl was told that Jimmy Iovine would play more of a role (than he did).
In 2004, Buckethead quit and Guns N' Roses canceled their tour. They released a statement saying that Buckethead had been "inconsistent and erratic in both his behaviour and his commitment... His transient lifestyle has made it near impossible to have nearly any form of communications with him whatsoever." Shortly afterwards, Rose released a statement saying that they hoped "to announce a release date within the next few months". Stinson said in September that the album would be in the mastering stages by November 2004.


Conflict with Geffen

By 2004, Geffen had removed ''Chinese Democracy'' from its release schedule and withdrawn funding, stating: "Having exceeded all budgeted and approved recording costs by millions of dollars, it is Mr. Rose's obligation to fund and complete the album, not Geffen's." Around that time, manager Merck Mercuriadis said the album was close to complete. According to a March 2005 ''
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'' article, production costs for the album had reached $13 million ($ in current dollar terms), making it probably the most expensive recording "never made". Mercuriadis dismissed the article, writing in a letter that the newspaper's sources had not been involved with the project for several years. At one point, the band was using a budget of almost $250,000 a month. Rose said the expense would be negated by the recording sessions yielding multiple albums. In February 2006, "I.R.S.", "The Blues", "There Was a Time", "Better" and "Catcher in the Rye" leaked online. The leaked version of "I.R.S." was aired frequently enough on various record stations prior to the band's management intervening that it charted at #49 on the Radio & Records Active Rock National Airplay Chart for the week ending Feb. 24, 2006. In October, "Better" was inadvertently leaked by
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in an online ad. A "final version" was leaked in February 2007. "Madagascar" was leaked in March 2007. In May 2007, the title track leaked, and updated versions of "Chinese Democracy," "The Blues," "I.R.S." and "There Was a Time" were leaked by professional wrestler Mister Saint Laurent. The final version of " Shackler's Revenge" leaked in August 2008. Buckethead was replaced by
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and touring resumed in May 2006. Bumblefoot added guitar to the album between tour legs throughout the year. Bumblefoot wrote guitar parts for every song, trying hundreds of ideas, and contributed
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. Bumblefoot stated that working with such densely layered songs was a challenge, "..you go into a higher range, so you don't clash with it, and then it's, like, 'Oh, wait. There's that synth thing...' Or you go lower, and it's, like, 'Ah, it's kind of getting eaten up by the rhythms and the bass', so it was a challenge to find the right place."
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replaced Brain in July 2006 and added new drum tracks. Rose held listening parties in several New York bars in 2006, showcasing 10 new songs. In October 2006, ''Rolling Stone'' said the album had a "firm" release date of November 21, 2006. According to ''Rolling Stone'', engineer Andy Wallace, who had worked with Nirvana,
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, Slayer, and Bad Religion, was working on the album that year. Stinson stated that most of the album had been recorded collaboratively in 2001, and had been "pretty much done" since then. On December 14, on the Guns N' Roses website, Rose announced the cancellation of four shows, citing the need for more time to work on ''Chinese Democracy''. He also announced that the band had ended their relationship with Mercuriadis, and announced a tentative release date of March 6, 2007; it was the first time the band had publicly given a release date. In an interview held during the launch party for Korn's 2006 tour, Rose told ''Rolling Stone'' that ''Chinese Democracy'' was a "complex record", with Queen-like arrangements, and that he expected some fans to complain about the new direction. In a 2006 ''Rolling Stone'' article, former
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frontman
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described ''Chinese Democracy'' as "epic" and "mind-blowing": "It's a very cool album—it's badass with killer screams, killer guitar riffs, but it's got a totally modern sound. The word for it is 'grand.' It's fucking epic. xl hasreinvented himself yet again." Bach also described the album as having "the rawness and the power of ''Appetite for Destruction'', but it also has the grandiosity of 'November Rain'." Rose said in 2006 that Guns N' Roses had 32 songs in development, with Bach later confirmed that Rose told him ''Chinese Democracy'' would be the first in a trilogy of albums. Rose later in 2008 confirmed the working titles of 10 songs from the upcoming unreleased albums.


Final sessions

Rose recorded the final vocal tracks in January 2007. On February 22, 2007, the band's road manager
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issued a press release stating there was no official release date but that recording had ended and mixing had begun. In a 2007 interview, Sebastian Bach said Rose had planned to have the album released by Christmas 2007 and that the delays might have been caused by business problems. In January 2007, Bach recorded backing vocals for "Sorry" at
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. He described the song as "almost like doom metal with Axl singing really clean over this grinding, slow beat that is fucking mean, I cannot get it out of my head." Harpist Patti Hood, who had worked with Pitman on the album ''
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'', and conductor Suzy Katayama also recorded parts. In January 2008, rumors arose that ''Chinese Democracy'' had been handed to Geffen but was delayed because the label and Rose could not agree on the marketing. Radio host Eddie Trunk said Geffen might have the album and that delays were due to financial reasons. However, in a February 2008 interview with ''Classic Rock'', Rose's personal manager Beta Lebeis dismissed Trunk's suggestion and said they were in negotiations with the label. With a wealth of material to select from, Rose was solely responsible for track selection and sequencing of the album.''Talking Metal Podcast: Chris Pitman'' hosted by Mark Strigl. November 16, 2008 According to Bumblefoot, the band and producer Caram Costanzo (who joined in 2003) spent 14 hours a day working on the album. Producers who worked on the album include
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,
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, Sean Beavan, and
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. Rose and Caram Costanzo are the producers credited on the finished album, with Baker, Caudieux, Beaven and keyboardist
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credited with additional production. The band used 15 studios during production, including Capitol Studios,
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, Electric Lady Studios,
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, and The Village. Mastering engineer Bob Ludwig offered three versions of the album for approval. Rose and Costanzo selected the version without dynamic-range compression to avoid being involved in the ongoing loudness war. Ludwig wrote: "I was floored when I heard they decided to go with my full dynamics version and the loudness-for-loudness-sake versions be damned ... The fan and press backlash against the recent heavily compressed recordings finally set the context for someone to take a stand and return to putting music and dynamics above sheer level."


Release and promotion

On September 14, 2008, the track " Shackler's Revenge" was included in the music game '' Rock Band 2'', the first official release of new Guns N' Roses material since 1999's "Oh My God". The entire album was made available for the game on April 14, 2009, as
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. It was followed by "If the World", which plays during the closing credits of the 2008 film '' Body of Lies''. ''Billboard'' announced a firm release date for ''Chinese Democracy'', November 23, 2008, on October 9. In the US, the retail release is sold exclusively through Best Buy. The first single, " Chinese Democracy", was released on October 22, 2008. It was debuted on the
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show broadcast by KROQ-FM. " Better" was released as a
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on November 17, 2008, followed by " Street of Dreams" in March 2009. Several days before its release, the band streamed the album on their Myspace page. It was streamed over 3 million times, breaking the Myspace record for most streamed album ever. After the album's release, Rose did not appear in public for several months and did not respond to calls from the label to promote the album. On December 12, Rose answered questions and posted statements regarding the record, former bandmates, and tour plans on several Guns N' Roses fan forums. On February 9, 2009, in his first official interview since the release, Rose said he had "no information for me to believe there was any real involvement or effort from Interscope". In a 2018 look back, ''Billboard'' decried the marketing for the album, stating: "The most anticipated rock record in history was murdered by a thousand different jabs and body shots, including artwork the artist wasn't committed to, but the colossal marketing blunder was the Tyson-esque knockout punch." The band announced a new leg of the
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in March 2009, which lasted from December 2009 until December 2012. Finck left before the tour to rejoin Nine Inch Nails; he was replaced by
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. A guitar tab book of the album was released in December 2009. In May 2010, Azoff's company Front Line Management sued Rose over unpaid concert fees. Shortly afterwards, Rose filed a $5 million counter-lawsuit against Azoff claiming Azoff had "sabotaged" the ''Chinese Democracy'' release by "purposefully spoiling" the album art, "botching" a sales deal with Best Buy, and leaking songs online. The lawsuit was settled in 2011. ''Chinese Democracy'' was banned in China because of perceived criticism in its title track of the
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and a reference to Falun Gong. The
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said through media that it "turns its spear point on China".


Leaks

By the time ''Chinese Democracy'' was released, only 3 of the 14 songs had not been leaked or played live. In June 2008, five months before the album's release, music blogger Kevin Cogill streamed nine tracks on his website Antiquiet for "an hour or two". The high volume of traffic crashed the website server and the tracks were removed. In August, the FBI arrested Cogill under the
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for releasing copyrighted material. Slash said: "I hope he rots in jail. It's going to affect the sales of the record, and it's not fair." According to
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, Cogill's arrest resulted in a large boost in illegal downloads of the album. They also revealed that UMG showed Best Buy search engine traffic results shortly after the case to capitalize on the interest and help them with the distribution deal. In November, Cogill agreed to plead guilty to one federal count of copyright infringement, later reduced to a misdemeanor. According to Cogill, he was not charged for copyright infringement because the court could not prove that the album was being prepared for commercial distribution: "The US government would have to prove, in court, that ''Chinese Democracy'' was really coming. And no one at the RIAA or the label had informed the government that these songs had been lying around for 14 years. Only that they had cost $12 million." Cogill was sentenced to two months' house arrest and was required to produce an anti-piracy video with the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA). He said the video was never made as the RIAA did not want to spend money on production costs. In 2019, around 100 ''Chinese Democracy'' demos leaked online. Zutaut had allowed a storage unit containing several CDs of recordings to expire, allowing its contents to be auctioned off; the winner sold them to a fan, who circulated them online.


Dr Pepper promotion

On March 26, 2008, media reported that soft drinks manufacturer
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would offer a free can of its product to everyone in America—excluding former Guns N' Roses guitarists Buckethead and Slash—if the band released ''Chinese Democracy'' in 2008. On the Guns N' Roses website, Rose wrote of his surprise at the company's support, and said he would share his Dr Pepper with Buckethead. After it was announced that the album would be released in 2008, Dr Pepper confirmed that it would uphold its pledge. However, on the album's release, the Dr Pepper website servers crashed under the demand for coupons. Lawyers for the band threatened Dr Pepper's parent company with a lawsuit two days after the album's release; in a letter to the company, Rose's lawyer Alan Gutman said: "The redemption scheme your company clumsily implemented for this offer was an unmitigated disaster which defrauded consumers and, in the eyes of vocal fans, ruined ''Chinese Democracys release." Gutman also demanded a full-page apology to appear in ''
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'', ''USA Today'', ''The New York Times'', and ''
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''. Later, in an online interview with fans, Rose said he told his lawyers it was a "non-issue" and was surprised by their actions, and that he believed they should have focused on the record release.


Copyright infringement

In October 2009, electronic musician
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's record labels Independiente and
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sued Guns N' Roses, alleging they had infringed copyright by using portions of Schnauss' compositions in the song "Riad 'N the Bedouins". The suit alleges the portions are sampled from Schnauss' '' Wherever You Are'' (2001) and ''
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'' (2003). Brian Caplan, attorney for Domino, stated that they first contacted Geffen on February 26. Caplan told New York Daily News the label "attempted to explain he samplesaway", and "They tried to justify it". Guns N' Roses denied the allegations; the band's manager
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stated: "The snippets of 'ambient noise' in question were provided by a member of the album's production team who has assured us that these few seconds of sound were obtained legitimately ... While the band resents the implication that they would ever use another artist's work improperly and are assessing possible counterclaims, they are confident this situation will be satisfactorily resolved." The two labels sought $1 million in damages against Geffen for the unauthorized use of the samples.


Unused tracks and follow-up album

Only two additional songs from the recording sessions have been officially released. According to Bumblefoot, one song, "Atlas Shrugged", was cut at the last second because of CD playing-time constraints.GNR Evolution: Song facts: Atlas Shrugged
GNR Evolution, 2009.
Songs mentioned by those involved in the recording that did not make the final album include "Atlas Shrugged", "Oklahoma", "Thyme", "The General", "Elvis Presley and the Monster of Soul", "Ides of March", "
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", "Down by the Ocean", "Zodiac", "Quick Song" and "We Were Lying". In August 2013, "Going Down", a song recorded during the sessions featuring Tommy Stinson on vocals, was leaked online, as well as several remixes by Brain & future Guns N' Roses keyboardist
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. In 2014, Rose said that a "second part" of ''Chinese Democracy'' and a
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were complete and pending release. In 2018, ''Billboard'' reported that a follow-up to ''Chinese Democracy'' had been planned for 2016, but was put on hold when
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and
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rejoined the band. Guitarist
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confirmed work on a new album in 2018. In October 2021, Slash mentioned the band had been reworking songs from the ''Chinese Democracy'' period.


Style and composition

''Chinese Democracy'' marked Guns N' Roses' expansion into industrial rock,
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nu metal, and elements of
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, while retaining the hard rock style of previous albums. Critics noted stylistic similarities on the album to the work of Queen,
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, and Andrew Lloyd Webber. Rose cited the influence of Dave Grohl's drumming on Nirvana's "
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" on the title track. The song was inspired by the movie ''
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'' about the
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, as well as three months Rose spent living in China, stating "When you stay in hotels there, you don't realize that the stuff you're seeing on TV, the average person isn't seeing. Everywhere I went, people are scared, they're frightened for their lives to have an opinion that deviates from the government about the simplest things, things that we take for granted." The lyrics "Blame it on the
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/ They've seen the end and you cannot hold on now" from the song caused the album to be banned in China. The song starts with a delayed intro of ambient noise and guitar lines. ''Spin'' likened the guitars to the work of
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. Drummer Josh Freese wrote the main guitar riff, describing it as "really dumb, simple, dirty guitar riff." "Shackler's Revenge" was written in reaction to Virginia Tech shooter
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, who wrote a play based on the lyrics of the Guns N' Roses song "
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"; Rose responded to "the insanity of senseless school shootings" and the media overreacting to Cho's interest in Guns N' Roses. The song drew comparisons to the music of industrial and electronic artists such as Nine Inch Nails, The Prodigy, Marilyn Manson, Korn and Rob Zombie from critics. The song features elements of industrial rock, electronic rock, nu metal, sludge rock, and
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. Multiple layers of vocals create what ''Rolling Stone'' described as "a demented choir". "Better" is an electronic rock-influenced song that features Rose singing in falsetto at the beginning of the track "No one ever told me when / I was alone / They just thought I'd know better", over a "whining guitar line that bubbles and bursts". Rose mentioned the guitar parts in the bridge as among his favorite parts of the album. '' Loudwire'' described the song as having an Acid house style beat, while ''Rolling Stone'' described the intro as a "hip-hop voicemail". "Street of Dreams", previously known as "The Blues", is a pop-influenced piano ballad similar to "
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" and "The Garden" with influences from Elton John. The song was noted as similar to the works of Queen. On "If The World", Buckethead played a
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; it was described as having "an electronic funk slither",
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, nu-metal, and
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styles. Keyboardist Chris Pitman stated of the song "It's about environmental decay in its futurist context." Pitman primarily wrote the song on a 12 string guitar, stating "I just started with this riff that allows for a pretty cool vocals... I wrote the drums with a dub / reggae beat... added strings, piano, bass, echo guitar, synth and sub-bass. I gave the recordings to Axl and he added his part by singing in one night." Rose described the writing of the song as a combination of
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and 70's Blaxploitation films, with an "intentionally cheesey sounding chorus" to parody
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. "There Was a Time" is a heavily layered melody driven orchestral song with a mellotron, violins, choirs and multiple synthesizers. ''Spin'' noted, "Bluesy piano and slyly cinematic passage set up the highest notes Axl's full-health throat has ever belted." "Catcher in the Rye" was written after Rose watched a documentary on
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and wanted to write a song in dedication to
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; the song is meant to criticize the book ''
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''. The song, a
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drew comparisons to Oasis as well as Elton John, Queen and the Guns N' Roses song " Yesterdays". "Scraped" takes the album back to an industrial rock style with Rose singing "Don't you try to stop us now" and "All things are possible, I am unstoppable." The intro has been described as "highly processed and strange". A vocal bridge on the song was noted as similar to "
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" by Extreme. It also drew comparisons to
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. ''Loudwire'' described the song as a "musical Frankenstein", referencing the effects on Rose's voice. Discussing the origins of "Riad N' The Bedouins", Rose stated: "Riad is the name my one-time momentary brother-in-law of Erin Everly went by when I knew him. Of part Lebanese descent and a former student of
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, he claims to be an international arms dealer." Rose's vocals on the song have been compared to Robert Plant. The song starts with ambient samples of the songs "Wherever You Are" and "A Strangely Isolated Place" by
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( see below for information on the lawsuit regarding the samples). Several critics have theorised the song's lyrical content is about the
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. Rose said "Sorry" was about "anyone talking nonsense at mine and the public's expense". The song is a power ballad which features a chorus "I'm sorry for you/Not sorry for me", described as a shot at Rose's former bandmates. The song drew comparisons to Pink Floyd and Metallica, and Rose's vocals were compared to
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. ''The A.V. Club'' noted Rose's "bizarre, quasi-Transylvanian accent" on the line "But I don't want to do it". "I.R.S." has Rose singing "Gonna call the president / Gonna call myself a private eye / Gonna need the IRS / Gonna get the FBI" over a guitar heavy track. The song was also noted for trip-hop influences. ''Spin'' mentioned the main riff's similarities to that of Nirvana's "
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" has been described as having a "trip hop pulse"; its bridge features interwoven samples of quotations from the movies '' Mississippi Burning'', ''
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'', '' Cool Hand Luke'', '' Braveheart'', and ''
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'', and also contains several excerpts from Dr.
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's speeches " I Have a Dream" and "Why Jesus Called a Man a Fool". ''
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'' described it as "Axl's attempt to do
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's Kashmir. Rose said of the quotes "Dr. King's words have been edited together from multiple speeches as to bring the sentiments of his messages into the context of this particular song and to present their importance as strongly as possible." "This I Love" is a song written in 1992 that Rose called "the heaviest thing I've written". The song is a piano ballad with Rose singing to a former lover. Rose described the song stating "It's a lot more intricate than I think most realize yet as the guitar and vocals are placed as they should be so dominant. The main string melody in that section I had originally written to a hip-hop loop as well." ''Spin'' compared the song to the works of Andrew Lloyd Webber. " Prostitute" is another orchestral-lined power ballad that features the lyrics "Ask yourself / Why I would choose / To prostitute myself / To live with fortune and shame". According to producer
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, Rose "labored" over the song because past successes weighed heavily on him. The song was described by ''Loudwire'' as "blending classical orchestrations and electro-beats with blistering guitar solos and some of ose'shighest pitched shrieking." ''Consequence of Sound'' compared Rose's vocals to "
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with distortion."


Artwork

The cover art features a
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photograph of a bicycle with a large wicker basket resting against a wall on which the band's name is
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ed; it was photographed in
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by Terry Hardin. Three red communist stars are above the letters "GNR" on the side with the band name and album title, which are written vertically. According to artistic director Ryan Corey, Rose conceived the bike cover at the album's inception. Rose approached Chinese artist Chen Zhuo for permission to use a painting of
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as an amusement park for the album cover, but Zhuo declined due to China's strict censorship laws and risks collaborating with a potentially controversial project. Shi Lifeng's painting "Controlling No. 3" was chosen by Rose and used as an alternate cover for an "art edition". It was used for the ''Rock Band 2'' download and released on CD in small quantities. The alternate booklet opens with a short essay written by Rose titled "Fear N' Freedom: The Future of China and Western Society". The album booklet features several artworks by Lifeng, including a bloodied fist holding a star covered by flailing human figures. Photographs of the Hong Kong skyline and the Chinese military also appear in the booklet. The booklet also includes pictures of Rose, Buckethead, Stinson, Pitman, Finck, Fortus, Bumblefoot, Reed, Brain, and Ferrer alongside lyrics to the songs. Rose stated in December 2008 that two alternate booklets were pending release, adding "the artwork has always been something I've been passionate about, and to release the album with unapproved and unseen final artwork with a 1st work only error filled draft when others more recent were readily available still has not been explained." However, plans fell through and only the "art edition" was released in limited quantities. Bassist Tommy Stinson stated the label "ripped away" from Rose the artwork "right at the last second, when he wasn't ready."


Critical reception

''Chinese Democracy'' was met with generally positive reviews. At
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, which assigns a normalized rating out of 100 to reviews from mainstream critics, the album received an
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score of 64, based on 28 reviews.''Chinese Democracy'' (2008): Reviews
.
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. Retrieved on November 28, 2009.
''Los Angeles Times'' writer
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called it "a test for contemporary ears" and "a cyborgian blend of pop expressiveness, traditional rock bravado and Brian Wilson-style beautiful weirdness".
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, writing for ''
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'', praised the vocals and guitar parts but criticized some production elements. ''Rolling Stone'' writer
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commended Rose's unrestrained approach and called it "a great, audacious, unhinged and uncompromising hard-rock record". ''Rolling Stone'' later ranked the album number 12 on its year-end list of 2008's best albums. Jon Dolan from ''
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'' found some of the music "ludicrous" and other parts "brilliant", writing that "these aren't songs, they're suites, energetic and skittering and unpredictable hard rock hydras cut with miasmic industrial grind, stadium rattling metal solos, electronic drift and hip-hop churn." Writing for ''
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'', Robert Christgau said Rose succeeds on "his own totally irrelevant terms" and added, "Since he's no longer capable of leading young white males astray, this effort isn't just pleasurable artistically. It's touching on a human level."
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compared the production to the
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style of
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. In a mixed review, ''
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'' writer
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found Rose's production over-embellished. ''
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'' criticized the album as incohesive and "exhausting", but praised Rose's melodies. ''
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'' complimented the vocals but criticized the "dated" sound. '' Q'' considered the album overproduced, stating "by throwing everything at the wall and nailing up the stuff that didn't stick, ose hasdone himself a grand disservice".
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, writing for ''
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'', accused Rose of "cribbing" from the industrial rock of Nine Inch Nails. ''The New York Times'' described ''Chinese Democracy'' as "a transitional album". Rock biographer Stephen Davis was more vitriolic and named ''Chinese Democracy'' "the worst album ever". The album was nominated for the Juno Award for International Album of the Year in 2009, losing to
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''. The song "If the World" was nominated for Best Original Song at the 13th Satellite Awards, losing to "
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" by
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and
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. The album's polarizing reception led to it being included on several publication's year end worst-of lists, as well of best-of lists.


Former band members' opinions

Several former members of Guns N' Roses gave their opinion on the album after release.
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reacted positively to the title track, stating "That sounds cool. It's good to hear Axl's voice again, y'know?" When the album was released, Slash said, "It's a really good record. It's very different from what the original Guns N' Roses sounded like, but it's a great statement by Axl ... It's a record that the original Guns N' Roses could never possibly make. And at the same time it just shows you how brilliant Axl is." He subsequently stated the album was "exactly what I thought it would sound like", with many synthesizers and digital augmentations. After rejoining the band for the Not in This Lifetime tour in 2016, Slash complimented Buckethead's guitar parts and spoke of the album in a 2018 interview, stating "You know, it is very different. It's really cool stuff, but it was played by guitar players that are very different from me, style-wise.... I also want to give credit where credit's due – the guitar players that played on ''Chinese Democracy''... are fucking amazing guitar players." Soon after its release,
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said "I have listened to some tracks off the record and I enjoyed them" and "I like what I've heard". Steven Adler, when asked if he liked the album, said "Not one bit. I didn't recognize Axl's voice on it. There's occasional parts where he does his loud scream but I didn't even know it was him." He also criticized labeling the album as a Guns N' Roses album, stating it should have been released as an Axl Rose solo album. Gilby Clarke stated "I think it's a really good record—I honestly do ... Knowing hedirection
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he wanted to take the band, I think he hit the nail on the head; I think he did a great job".
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praised the album, saying "Axl sounds amazing" and "I think Axl's finally made the record he always wanted to".
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stated he was "pleasantly surprised" by the title track, and called the album a "toe-tapper". Founding Guns N' Roses guitarist
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said he thought it was "over-indulgent, sterile and not that exciting".


Accolades


Legacy

''Chinese Democracy'''s protracted recording process attracted extensive media coverage. According to '' Spin'', a cottage industry grew around covering its development; "the only way the record could have lived up to its legend would have been to never come out at all". Five years after its release, ''
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'' journalist Steven Hyden wrote: "For years, it was widely assumed ''Chinese Democracy'' would never come out; in retrospect, the delay is all anybody cares about ... As music, ''Chinese Democracy'' is merely the second-worst GNR record; as a figure of speech, it is shorthand for the grandest of boondoggles." Hyden wrote that the album had served as a lesson for acts who took years to release "comeback" albums, demonstrating the perils of allowing backstory to overshadow the work and failing to provide a familiar product. He compared ''Chinese Democracy'' to subsequent, successful comeback albums by acts including Daft Punk,
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, Justin Timberlake and My Bloody Valentine, which were "more modest" and offered "well-trod musical territory associated with each artist". ''Ultimate Classic Rock'' noted the album's reception, stating "The fact that it was, by all standards, a fairly good album, was completely eclipsed by its backstory" and stating that artists such as Bowie,
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and
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used the album as an example "by keeping a low profile during production and staying relatively faithful to what fans expected" for long-awaited albums. ''The New York Times'' saw the album as a "loud last gasp from the reign of the indulged pop star"; where Rose had once commanded "loyal audiences, bountiful royalties, escalating ambitions and dangerously open-ended deadlines", the music business in the early 21st century had become "leaner" and "leakier".
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compared the album to the movie ''
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'', claiming it was a "late-career installment in a beloved franchise that we never thought we'd see," but lamenting that it was "nowhere near enough to stand as an equal artistic accomplishment." In 2012, ''
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'' named ''Chinese Democracy'' amongst "50 Albums That Were Unfairly Hated On", praising Roses's vocals and the musicianship of the band and stating that the album's biggest flaw were the delays in release.50 Albums That Were Unfairly Hated On
/ref> In a 2015 review inducting the album into their "New Classic Albums" category,
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praised the album, calling it "a timeless work of art". In a 2018 look back, ''Billboard'' called the album a "sonic anomaly" of the time due to the mixing and lack of compression making it sound "vintage or alien to rock music fans". A 2018 retrospective review by ''No Recess'' magazine compared the album to "their own version of Danzig's Blackacidevil", stating " fter the 90'sthe only thing left was to repeat or radically reinvent themselves. Chinese Democracy tries to do both, to varying degrees of 'okay, sure'." In 2021, ''Ultimate Guitar'' called the album "unfairly maligned" while highlighting "There Was a Time" as the standout track. Journalist
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stated "its sprawling, indulgent insanity is maybe even more fun to hear now than it was at the time" after re-listening to the album in 2021. In 2022, ''Loudwire'' placed the album on a list of "10 Hated Rock + Metal Albums That Are Better Than You Remember", stating "And it may be a mess, but there are still some great jams here."


Sales

the contents of the deluxe edition of ''Chinese Democracy''. Best Buy purchased 1.3 million copies of ''Chinese Democracy'' from UMG for $14 million ($ in current dollar terms) before release and pledged not to return unsold copies. The album was released on November 22, 2008, in Germany, Switzerland, and Austria. It was released the following day worldwide, except for the United Kingdom, where it was released on November 24. ''Chinese Democracy'' debuted at number three on the US ''Billboard'' 200 chart, selling 261,000 copies in its first week, well below expectations. It debuted at number two on the
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. Second-week US sales dropped significantly and it fell from #3 to #18 on the ''Billboard'' chart: a 78% drop. The programming director at KLOS-FM said the low sales were due to the holiday season release and lackluster lead single, while
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blamed the Best Buy exclusive deal for lower than expected sales in the US. Critics also cited Rose's lack of promotional appearances as a factor. After selling 21,000 copies in its sixth week and charting at #30, ''Chinese Democracy'' was certified Gold, passing the 500,000-shipped mark on January 7, 2009. It was certified
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by the RIAA on February 3, 2009, having shipped one million copies in the United States. It placed 55th on the 2009 Billboard 200 Year End charts. ''Chinese Democracy'' won an IFPI European Platinum Award, having sold more than one million copies in Europe, and had sold 2.6 million units worldwide by February 2009, according to Universal Music. It reached triple platinum certification in Canada and was awarded platinum certifications in many countries including Finland, the Czech Republic, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Norway, Poland, Romania, Switzerland, the United Kingdom, Argentina, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa. It was certified gold in Austria, Belgium, Denmark, France, Greece, Hungary, the Netherlands, Sweden, Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, Brazil, and Colombia. After Best Buy put the album on clearance for $2 in April 2011, it re-entered the US ''Billboard'' 200 chart in the week ending April 3, 2011 at #198, selling 3,200 copies. By then, the album had sold 614,000 copies in the US, according to Nielsen Soundscan. In the UK, it had sold 365,899 copies by July 2014. After the 2016 Not in This Lifetime... Tour reunion tour (during which most songs from the album were played), ''Billboard'' reported the album's digital streams jumped from 8 million streams to 24 million, as well as 7,900 additional copies sold.


Track listing

Songwriting credits via ASCAP.


Personnel

Credits adapted from the album's liner notes. Guns N' Roses *
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– lead vocals (all tracks), keyboards (tracks 1, 6 and 13), synthesizers (tracks 6, 12 and 13), piano (tracks 7, 13 and 14), guitar (tracks 6 and 12), samples (track 12), arrangements and
digital editing Digital media is any communication media that operate in conjunction with various encoded machine-readable data formats. Digital media can be created, viewed, distributed, modified, listened to, and preserved on a digital electronics device. ' ...
(all tracks), production,
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engineering, mixing, art direction (Alternative booklets) *
Robin Finck Robert John "Robin" Finck (born November 7, 1971) is an American guitarist. Finck is the longest-serving touring musician for Nine Inch Nails, performing with the band from 1994 to 2000, and returning in 2008. With Nine Inch Nails, Finck contribu ...
– guitar (all tracks), keyboards (tracks 3 and 5), acoustic guitar (track 10), arrangements, editing and initial production (track 3) * Bumblefoot – guitar (all tracks) *
Buckethead Brian Patrick Carroll (born May 13, 1969), known professionally as Buckethead, is an American guitarist, songwriter, and multi-instrumentalist. He has received critical acclaim for his innovative electric guitar playing. His music spans severa ...
– guitar (all tracks except 7 and 13), acoustic guitar (track 5), arrangements (tracks 2, 8 and 10) *
Paul Tobias Paul H. Tobias (also known as Paul Edward Huge (pronounced hugh-gee); born in August 1963, Indianapolis, Indiana) is an American guitarist best known for his involvement with hard rock band Guns N' Roses, with whom he has collaborated since 199 ...
– guitar (tracks 1, 3–7, 9, 11, 12 and 14), piano (track 6), arrangements (tracks 1 and 11) *
Richard Fortus Richard Fortus (born November 17, 1966) is an American guitarist. He has been a member of the hard rock band Guns N' Roses, with whom he has recorded one studio album, since 2001. Fortus has also collaborated extensively with The Psychedelic Fur ...
– guitar (tracks 1, 3–4, 6 and 14) *
Tommy Stinson Thomas Eugene Stinson (born October 6, 1966) is an American rock musician. He came to prominence in the 1980s as the bass guitarist for The Replacements, one of the definitive American alternative rock groups. After their breakup in 1991, Stins ...
– bass guitar (all tracks except 5), backing vocals (tracks 1, 3, 4, 6 and 9), arrangements (track 9) *
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– drums (all tracks except 1), arrangements (tracks 2–4, 6, 10, 12 and 14), initial production (tracks 2 and 10), engineering (track 10), drum machine and drum programming (track 11), Logic Pro engineering *
Frank Ferrer Frank Ferrer (born March 25, 1966) is an American rock drummer. He is best known as the drummer for hard rock band Guns N' Roses, with whom he has played, toured, and recorded since 2006. Ferrer was also a member of The Psychedelic Furs, Love ...
– drums (tracks 1, 3, 5, 6 and 11) *
Dizzy Reed Darren Arthur Reed (born June 18, 1963), better known by his stage name Dizzy Reed, is an American musician and occasional actor. He is best known as the keyboardist for the hard rock band Guns N' Roses, with whom he has played, toured, and recor ...
– keyboards (tracks 1–4, 6–9, 11 and 14), backing vocals (tracks 1, 3, 4, 6 and 9), synthesizers (tracks 4, 6, 13 and 14), piano (tracks 4 and 5), arrangements (tracks 4, 6, 12 and 14), Logic Pro engineering *
Chris Pitman Chris Pitman (born November 16, 1961) is an American musician best known for his involvement with the hard rock band Guns N' Roses. A multi-instrumentalist, Pitman is known to play keyboards, guitar and drums, in addition to his role as a lead o ...
– keyboards (tracks 1–8, 10, 12 and 13),
sub-bass Sub-bass sounds are the deep, low-register pitches below approximately 70  Hz (C2 in scientific pitch notation) and extending downward to include the lowest frequency humans can hear, approximately 20 Hz (E0). In this range, human hear ...
(all tracks), synthesizers (tracks 4, 6, 13 and 14), bass and drum programming (tracks 5, 6 and 12), backing vocals (tracks 1, 3 and 6), twelve-string guitar, drum machine and string machine (track 5), Mellotron (track 6), arrangements (tracks 5, 6, 12, 13), digital editing (tracks 5, 12 and 13), engineering (track 1), additional production, Logic Pro engineering * Josh Freese – arrangements (tracks 4, 6, 9 and 14) Additional musicians * Marco Beltrami – orchestra and arrangements (tracks 4, 6 and 12–14) * Paul Buckmaster – orchestra and arrangements (tracks 4, 6, 12 and 14) *Suzy Katayama – arrangements (tracks 6, 12 and 13),
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(track 12) *
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– backing vocals (track 10) *Patti Hood – harp (track 13) Design *Ryan Corey – art direction, design *Somyot Hananuntasuk – illustrations *Sasha Volkova – illustration *Terry Hardin – cover photography *George Chin – photography *Shi Lifeng – artwork (Red Star; 'Controlling' alternate Red Hand cover) *Illustrations (alternate booklets): Lie Yuan, He An, Jiang Congi, Kevin Zuckerman, Lian Xue Ming, Anton S. Kandinsky, Marat Bekeev, Xiao Ping, Lou Jie, Sandra Yagi, Socar Myles, Rankin, Johnie Hurtig, Gloria Gaddis Production *Caram Costanzo – engineering and digital editing (all tracks), arrangements (tracks 2, 3, 6, 8 and 14), initial production (track 8), sub drums (track 13), production, mixing *
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– additional production and preproduction *Engineering: Jeff "Critter" Newell,
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, Jeremy Blair *
Eric Caudieux Eric Caudieux is a French sound engineer and producer. An accomplished player of the keyboards and rhythm guitar, he is best known for his work with Joe Satriani, appearing on many of his albums and as a member of his backing group when he is on to ...
– digital editing (all tracks), drum machine and drum programming (track 5), arrangements (tracks 6), sub drums (track 13), additional production, Pro Tools engineering *
Sean Beavan Sean Beavan is a musician, record producer, and audio engineer best known for his work with Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson, Guns N' Roses, God Lives Underwater, and Slayer. His production style is typically heavy, with heavily saturated guita ...
– recording and digital editing (tracks 1, 4–6, 9, 11, 12 and 14), arrangements (tracks 1, 4, 6, 9 and 11), initial production (tracks 4–6, 11 and 12), additional production *
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– initial arrangement suggestions, Additional Demo Pre-production (track 12) *Pete Scaturro – arrangements and initial production (tracks 2 and 10), keyboards, digital editing and engineering (track 10) *
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– recording and editing (track 6), Logic Pro engineering *Stuart White – Logic Pro engineering *John O'Mahony – Pro Tools mixing *Engineering Assistance: Okhee Kim, Andy Gwynn, Brian Monteath, Dave Dominguez, Jose Borges, Joe Peluso, Christian Baker, James Musshorn, Jan Petrov, Jeff Robinette, Bob Koszela, Paul Payne, Mark Gray, Xavier Albira, Dror Mohar, Eric Tabala, Shawn Berman, Donald Clark, Shinnosuke Miyazawa, Vanessa Parr, John Beene, Al Perrotta *Additional Pro Tools: Greg Morgenstein, Paul DeCarli, Billy Bowers, Justin Walden, Rail Jon Rogut, Isaac Abolin * Andy Wallace – mixing *Mixing Assistance: Mike Scielzi, Paul Suarez * Bob Ludwigmastering


Charts


Weekly charts


Year-end charts


Certifications and sales


Singles


References


Footnotes


Further reading


Chinese Whispers – The Secret History of the New Studio AlbumClassic Rock Magazine: The Making of Chinese Democracy


See also

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