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''With Sympathy'' is the debut studio album by American industrial band Ministry, released on May 10, 1983, by
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. The group was formed in 1981 by lead singer and multi-instrumentalist
Al Jourgensen Alain David Jourgensen (born Alejandro Ramírez Casas; October 9, 1958) is a Cuban-American singer, musician and music producer. Closely related with the independent record label Wax Trax! Records, his musical career spans four decades. He is t ...
, with drummer Stephen George being the most notable member of its initial lineup. The album was briefly re-released overseas as ''Work for Love''.


Background and recording

In late 1981, Jourgensen was living in Chicago and involved in its underground scene. He began to write and record songs in his apartment, using a newly bought
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synthesizer, a drum machine and a reel-to-reel tape recorder. At one point, a demo tape featuring the song "I'm Falling" gained the attention of
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label co-founder and co-owner Jim Nash. Impressed by the demo, Nash offered to record its material professionally and to assemble the touring band, which Jourgensen named Ministry. At Chicago's Hedden West Studios, Jourgensen, with co-producers Jay O'Roarke and Iain Burgess, recorded Ministry's first material, a 12" single featuring the tracks " I'm Falling", "Primental" and " Cold Life". Jourgensen assembled the band's first live lineup, a five-piece group including Jourgensen on vocals and guitar, bassist Martin Sorenson, keyboardists Robert Roberts and John Davis and drummer Stephen George. Jourgensen and Roberts state that Roberts' inclusion in the group occurred because their mutual friend Paul Taylor was ill and unable to join. While touring the
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and the
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during 1982, Ministry received some commercial success with "Cold Life." The band gained the attention of Arista label executives, who chose to sign them. ''With Sympathy'' was recorded in Autumn 1982 with producers Vince Ely and Ian Taylor at the
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recording studio in
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.


Critical reception

On release, ''With Sympathy'' received mixed to negative reviews. However, ''Rolling Stone'' noted that any lack of originality in the
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concept was "... hardly worth complaining about, because Ministry manages to do something many far more innovative bands neglect: they write catchy dance songs." The review further observed that Jourgensen's singing was "... charged with anger, passion and glee–real emotions instead of the vocal posturing so common in synth-pop." The album achieved commercial success, peaking at number 94 in the ''Billboard'' 200 and selling more than 100,000 copies in the U.S. by 2007. The album was promoted with three singles—"Work for Love", " I Wanted to Tell Her" and "Revenge"—and the three-month tour. A music video was made for the single "Revenge." Retrospectively, many Ministry fans still dislike the album, but some people now have defended or even championed it, proclaiming it to be an “underrated” or “misunderstood” album.


Retrospective impressions by Al Jourgensen

Following the tour's completion, Jourgensen's dissatisfaction over his record deal led the band to depart Arista in early 1984. Jourgensen later disowned the album, maintaining that he had been pressured by Arista management into the then-popular synth-pop style, which is in contrast to the harder industrial and heavy metal sounds that he would later develop. He compared the experience to that of
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. Jourgensen has described the album as a "sonic abortion". He also claims that Arista had prevented songs that he had written in 1982 from appearing on the album; these tracks would eventually appear on ''
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'' and ''
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''. However, according to
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, with whom Jourgensen formed
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, Jourgensen discovered hardcore music after his synth-pop work, a statement that Jourgensen repeated in the documentary film ''Industrial Accident: The Story of Wax Trax! Records''. Former keyboardist Robert Roberts refutes claims that Jourgensen was forced by Arista to "make the record cheesy," saying that the finished product was simply watered down and did not properly capture the band's live sound. Additionally, video recordings of Ministry concerts in Chicago several years before their signing with Arista show the band playing synth-pop and dressed in new wave and
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styles. Jourgensen's disdain for the album led him to make a comment that he would only sign the album in exchange for $1000. In an interview with ''Rolling Stone'', he said that a fan presented him with the album for him to sign along with the $1000. Although surprised, he honored his promise and signed the album in exchange for the money. Jourgensen also stated that he donated the money to Rock for Kids, a Chicago based charity event, and should anyone else pay him to sign the album, he would continue to donate the money to Rock for Kids. Jourgensen assumes a false English accent for all of the songs, for which he later expressed regret. His ex-wife Patty stated in 2013 that doing so was an homage to bands that he had liked. Jourgensen has since made peace with the album, saying that "... because of that record I wouldn’t be who I am today. I think without that record, I wouldn't be as much of a fucking maniac douchebag. So I'm thankful for it now." In June 2023, Jourgensen announced that Ministry would re-record four tracks from ''With Sympathy'': "Revenge", "Effigy", "Work for Love", and "Here We Go". The new versions will be "a lot more guitar-driven, but not metal." On August 24, 2023, Ministry performed "Revenge" live for the first time since 1984 in
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. The song was performed again in August 27, 2023 in
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. In December 2023, it was announced that Ministry would be performing at the 2024 Cruel World Festival with a setlist consisting of songs from both ''With Sympathy'' and ''
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''. The setlist included "Revenge", "Effigy (I'm Not An)" and "Work for Love", the later two being performed live for the first time since 1984. On March 28, 2025, Ministry released the compilation album '' The Squirrely Years Revisited'' through
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. It contains the songs "Revenge", "Effigy (I'm Not An)", "Here We Go", "Work for Love" all re-recorded along with several other songs from non-album singles and 3 songs from ''
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''.


Reissue

''With Sympathy'' was out of print for many years, and Jourgensen claimed that he had destroyed the master tapes. In 2012, Eastworld Records reissued the album with three bonus tracks.


In popular culture

"Effigy (I'm Not An)" was used in a scene in HBO's ''
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'', Season 2, Episode 3.


Track listing

*"What He Say" was renamed "Do the Etawa" on the European release. *The European LP release has the 7" remix of "I Wanted To Tell Her" instead of the U.S. album version. All CD versions use the U.S. album version.


Personnel

Credits adapted from the liner notes of ''With Sympathy''.


Ministry

*
Al Jourgensen Alain David Jourgensen (born Alejandro Ramírez Casas; October 9, 1958) is a Cuban-American singer, musician and music producer. Closely related with the independent record label Wax Trax! Records, his musical career spans four decades. He is t ...
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,
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, keyboards,
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* Stephen George - drums ,
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Additional musicians

* Robert Roberts - keyboards , bass keyboard * Marybeth O'Hara - vocals * Shay Jones - feature vocals * John Davis - keyboards * Walter Turbitt - guitar * Martin Sorenson -
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* Vince Ely - percussion & keyboards * Antonia de Portago - vocals * Brad Hallen - bass guitar * Ministry of Horns -
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* Ziv Gidron - chanting *
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- vocals * Bob Suber -
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Technical staff

* Ian Taylor - producer, engineer * Vince Ely - producer * David Wooley - engineer *
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- engineer * David Heglmeier - tape operator * Roger Merritt - tape operator * Steve Jackson - tape operator * Greg Calbi - mastering *
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- digital remastering


Management

* Steve Berkowitz - manager *
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- manager


Artwork

* Alberto Rizzo - photographer * David Gahr - inner sleeve photographer * Brian Shanley - cover concepts * Jim Nash - cover concepts


Chart positions

;Album ;Singles


References


Bibliography

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External links

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Video for "Revenge"
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