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Sir Richard de Grenville (died after 1142) (''alias'' de Grainvilla, de Greinvill, etc.) was one of the
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who served under Robert FitzHamon (died 1107), in the conquest of
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in Wales. He obtained from FitzHamon the lordship of
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in which he built
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and in 1129 founded
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. He is by tradition the founder and ancestor of the prominent
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Grenville family of Stowe in the parish of
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in Cornwall and of
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in Devon, the later head of which family was
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(1628–1701). The surname of his supposed descendants the
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Grenville family was spelled by tradition "Grenville" until 1661 when it was altered to "Granville".Round, p.130


Lord of Neath

As his reward for his services during the conquest of Glamorgan his brother Robert FitzHamon allotted him the lordship of
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, where Richard built
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. He is styled in one Glamorgan charter as "Constable of the Earl of Gloucester",Round, p.136 thus of Robert Fitzroy, 1st Earl of Gloucester (died 1147), his brother's son-in-law and heir.


Founds Neath Abbey

In 1129 Richard de Grenville founded Neath Abbey within his lordship as a daughter-house of the
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near the village of
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in western
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order into the
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order in 1147 Neath Abbey also became a Cistercian house. To it he donated many of his lands, both in Wales and in Devon which he held from the
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, including
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, near Bideford in North Devon.Round, p.137 A later confirmation charter granted in 1207 by King John (1199–1216) to Neath Abbey confirmed to the monks the former grants of Richard de Grenville:
''Johannes Deo Gratia etc. Sciatis nos dedisse et concessisse et presenti carta nostra confirmasse Deo et ecclesie sancte Trinitatis de Neth et monachis ibidem Deo servientibus locum ubi castellum Ricardi de Granavilla quondam fuit cum omnibus pertinentiis suis et totam terram quam idem Ricardus habuit inter Thawy et Neth, in bosco et plano cum omnibus partinentiis suis; habenda et tenenda in liberam puram et perpetuara elemosinam, quieta ab omni servicio sicut predictus Ricardus ea illis prius dedit et carta sua confirmavit. Salvis tenementis burgensium nostrorum de Neth...Datum per manum W. de Gray cancellarii nostri apud Wudestock, v. die Augusti, anno regni nostri ix.'' (John by the grace of God (king of England...other titles and styles)...Know ye all that we have given and conceded and by our present charter confirmed to God and to the Church of the Holy Trinity of Neath and to the monks there serving God the place where the castle of Richard de Grenville once was with all its appurtenances and all the land which the same Richard held between the (Rivers) Thawy and Neath, in wood and plain with all appurtenances. To have and to hold in pure and perpetual
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age, free from all service just as the foresaid Richard gave to them before and as his charter confirmed. Excepting our own burgage tenements in Neath. Given by the hand of W. de Gray our chancellor at
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on the 5th day of August in our
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9")


Marriages and children

Richard de Grenville is thought to have married twice. Firstly, according to
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(died c. 1142), to Isabel Giffard, the only daughter of
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(died 1102) and Lord of Longueville in Normandy, co-heiress with her aunt Rohesia (wife of Richard FitzGilbert, Lord of Clare) of the great possessions and lordships of the Giffard family.Granville, 1895, p.26 Grenville's second wife was a certain "Constance", mentioned as his wife in his foundation charter of Neath Abbey. She acted jointly with him in the founding of that Abbey, which suggested to
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that she may have been a native-born Welsh lady and the heiress of Neath. Granville (1895) suggested she was the daughter of Caradoc ap Arthur, Lord of Glyn Nedd. No surviving charter of his mentions any children and the fact that the lordship and castle of Neath
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ed to the
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the
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and
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, the son-in-law and heir of Robert FitzHamon, suggested to Round that he left no children to inherit his possessions.Round, p.138 Likewise, he held a few manors in Devon from the
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, one of these being ''Naissa'' ( Ash Reigny) which was re-granted after his death by the overlord to the ''de Reigny'' family. This evidence that the lands of Richard de Grenville did not descend to the later Westcountry Grenville family suggested to Round that though the latter family claimed to descend from the lord of Neath, this was not the case.


Supposed titles

According to tradition and as confirmed retrospectively by the 1661 warrant of King Charles II, Richard de Grenville was claimed to have been the brother and
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of Robert FitzHamon, who was supposed to have been ''Earl of Corboile and Lord of Thorigny and Granville in Normandy''. Although FitzHamon's lands passed via his daughter Mabel FitzHamon (1090–1157) to her husband Robert Fitzroy, 1st Earl of Gloucester (died 1147) and to their descendants, FitzHamon's Norman titles were inexplicably claimed to have passed to his brother Richard de Grenville as his heir male; Round points out that in fact, under ancient Norman law, titles could indeed be inherited via female lines. It was from the 1661 royal warrant that the Granville family of Stowe and Bideford, who claimed to be descended from Richard, were granted licence to use these titles, even retrospectively on monuments they later erected to their ancestors. The titles were mere historical curiosities and carried no rights in the
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.


Retirement and death

According to Round, Richard de Grenville died after June 1142. This deduction follows from his last being recorded as having signed (as ''Richard de Greinvill'') a charter dated "probably June 1142" as a sworn pledge giver to Robert, 1st Earl of Gloucester in his treaty of alliance with Miles Earl of Hereford. By tradition Richard de Grenville is said by
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(died 1723), (apparently following '' Fuller's Worthies'')) after he had founded Neath Abbey and bestowed upon it all his military acquisitions for its maintenance, to have "returned to his patrimony at
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where he lived in great honour and reputation the rest of his days". However, according to Round no proof exists that Richard de Grenville ever held the manor of Bideford, which was later one of the principal seats of the Westcountry Grenville family. It was however certainly one of the constituent manors of the
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granted by King
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to Robert FitzHamon." Richard de Grenville is known to have held seven
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s from the
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, either granted to him by his brother FitzHamon or the latter's son-in-law and heir
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(1100–1147). Round supposes instead that the Grenvilles of Bideford and Stowe were descended from a certain "Robert de Grenville" (''alias'' de Grainville, de Grainavilla, etc.) who was a junior witness to Richard's foundation charter of Neath Abbey and who in the 1166
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return was listed as holding one
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from the Earl of Gloucester, feudal baron of Gloucester. Robert's familial relationship, if any, to Richard is unknown. A Grenville family pedigree dated 1639 stated that in his old age Richard undertook a pilgrimage to Jerusalem, in which city he died. This story appears to derive from the ''Gwentian Chronicle'' or ''Aberporgwm Brut'', which adds that he brought back from the land of
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a man named ''Lalys'' who was "well-versed in the science of architecture, who erected monasteries, castles and churches" and who afterwards went to London as architect to King Henry I.


1860 depiction at Kilkhampton

An imaginary depiction of Richard de Grenville and his elder brother Robert FitzHamon (died 1107)) is contained within one of the two Granville windows by
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erected in 1860 by supposed descendants of the former within the Granville Chapel of the Church of St James the Great,
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, Cornwall. The seat of the Grenville family ("Granville" after 1661 when elevated to the Earldom of BathRound, pp. 130–169) was Stowe within the parish of Kilkhampton. Below the left-hand figure is inscribed: "Rob. FitzHamon Earl of Corboyle", with attributed arms under showing: ''Azure, a lion rampant guardant or'' impaling ''Azure, a lion rampant or a bordure of the last''. The right hand figure is of Richard de Granville, the younger brother of Robert FitzHamon and one of the
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who followed his brother in effecting the conquest of Glamorgan. He holds in his hands the church of his foundation of
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, Glamorgan. Below is inscribed: "Ric. de Granville Earl of Corboyle" with attributed arms under showing: ''Gules, three clarions or'' (the arms of the Grenvilles' later overlord and Robert FitzHamon's heir in the
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, Richard de Clare, Earl of Gloucester, which arms were later adopted by the Grenvilles) with an inescutcheon of pretence of ''Gules, three lions passant argent''. The Granvilles claimed in the 17th century to have been the heirs male of Robert FitzHamon (who left only a daughter as his sole heiress) in his supposed Earldom of Corboil. The windows were erected in 1860 by the heirs of the Grenville family: George Granville Sutherland-Leveson-Gower, 2nd Duke of Sutherland KG (1786–1861); John Alexander Thynne, 4th Marquess of Bath (1831–1896); George Granville Francis Egerton, 2nd Earl of Ellesmere (1823–1862);
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(1798–1881), DD, Canon of Westminster, a younger son of
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(1765–1837), KG.Per brass plaque below easternmost window


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References


Sources

*Granville, Rev. ''Roger, Rector of Bideford, History of the Granville Family traced back to Rollo First Duke of Normandy, with pedigrees etc.'', Exeter, 189

* J. Horace Round, Round, J. Horace, ''Family Origins and Other Studies'', London, 1930, The Granvilles and the Monks, pp. 130–169 {{DEFAULTSORT:Grenville, Richard de Anglo-Normans
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12th-century deaths Year of birth unknown