"Doubts Even Here", originally called "Tiny Tim", is the seventh track of eight on

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's debut album ''

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'', released on November 13, 1981. After the death of

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singer

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, the remaining members formed New Order with drummer Stephen Morris's girlfriend

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joining five months later. This led to all three male members attempting vocals. "Doubts Even Here" and "Dreams Never End" on ''Movement'' are sung by bassist

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with spoken contributions by Gillian Gilbert. The song starts off with an array of electronic percussion noises before slow synth and bass riffs enter, which eventually pick up speed later in the song. The lyrics were written by Stephen Morris. The song has not been performed live since a few performances in 1981.

Versions

Official versions

*Album version – 4:16

Remixes

*"Doubts Even Here" (Razed Club Mix) (unofficial remix by Razed in a New Division of Agony) – 4:32

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Official versions

Remixes

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