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The 9×23mm Largo (9mm Largo, 9mm Bergmann–Bayard, 9mm Bayard Long)
centerfire Two rounds of .357 Magnum, a centerfire cartridge; notice the circular primer in the center A centerfire cartridge is a firearm metallic cartridge whose primer is located at the center of the base of its casing (i.e. "case head"). Unlike rim ...
pistol cartridge was developed in 1901 for the
Bergmann Mars The Bergmann Mars was Theodor Bergmann's first successful military pistol design. The pistol was originally designed for the 7.63 Mauser cartridge, but was soon changed to the proprietary 9mm Bergmann cartridge. Military service The Mars was ...
pistol.


Description and history

The round was considered powerful for the day, producing a muzzle energy of between depending on the loading. A number of small changes to the Mars and the cartridge were made and the pistol that resulted was called the " Bergmann–Bayard 1903". This pistol was adopted by the Spanish army in 1905 as the "Pistola Bergmann de 9 mm. modelo 1903". Unable to find a German manufacturer to complete the Spanish order for 3,000 pistols,
Theodor Bergmann Theodor Bergmann (May 21, 1850 in Sailauf – March 23, 1931 in Gaggenau)Erich Keyser; Heinz Stoob, ''Deutsches Städtebuch, Handbuch städtischer Geschichte'', Stuttgart, Kohlhammer Verlag, 1939. (page 239) was a German businessman a ...
turned to a Belgian manufacturer,
Anciens Etablissements Pieper Anciens Etablissements Pieper was a Belgian arms manufacturer established under the name Henri Pieper in Herstal, Belgium in 1884 (some sources, 1866), by Henri Pieper. In 1898, it was renamed to Nicolas Pieper, and it became the Anciens Etablis ...
(who used the trademark "Bayard"), to complete the order. The final pistol, modified by AEP, was known as the "Bergmann Bayard 1908", or in Spain as the "Pistola Bergmann de 9 mm. modelo 1908". Although adopted in 1908 first deliveries did not take place until two years later. Meanwhile, other manufacturers such as Campo-Giro had adopted the 9mm Bergmann–Bayard round and, due to its long history of use in Spanish submachine guns,
carbines A carbine ( or ) is a long gun that has a barrel shortened from its original length. Most modern carbines are rifles that are compact versions of a longer rifle or are rifles chambered for less powerful cartridges. The smaller size and light ...
and pistols, today it is most commonly known as the "9mm Largo". At the same time the Bergmann–Bayard model 1910 semi-automatic pistol was adopted by the Danish military and remained in production until 1935. The cartridge headspaces on the mouth of the case.Wilson, R. K. ''Textbook of Automatic Pistols'', p.233. Plantersville, SC: Small Arms Technical Publishing Company, 1943. With jacketed projectiles, the muzzle energy is 336 foot pounds, slightly lower than a standard-pressure 9×19mm Luger. Compared to the 9×19mm Luger +P, performance is also lower but at lower pressure in the 9×23mm Largo. While external dimensions are almost identical, the 9×23mm Largo is a very different cartridge from the modern, high-performance
9×23mm Winchester The 9×23mm Winchester is a pistol cartridge developed as a joint venture by Winchester Ammunition and Colt's Manufacturing Company. The 9×23mm Winchester has a convoluted development history, but was commercially introduced by Winchester in 19 ...
. Firing the thicker-walled 9×23mm Winchester round in a 9×23mm Largo pistol is dangerous, as old 9mm Largo pistols cannot handle the pressure generated by the 9×23mm Winchester. Performance is similar to the contemporary
9×23mm Steyr The 9×23mm Steyr, also known as 9mm Steyr, is a centerfire pistol cartridge originally developed for the Steyr M1912 pistol. History Adopted in 1912, the 9mm Steyr was the service ammunition for most branches of the military in Austria-Hungary ...
, but the cartridges were developed independently and their dimensions are just different enough to render them non-interchangeable.


Firearms chambered for 9mm Largo

Anciens Establissements Pieper (AEP) * Bergmann Mars (1901) * Pistola Bergmann–Bayard de 9mm modelo 1903 * Pistola Bergmann–Bayard de 9mm modelo 1908 * Bergmann–Bayard M1910 * Bergmann–Bayard M1910/21 Berthodl Geipel’s Erfurter Maschinenfabrik * VMP(Vollmer) EMP/MPE Erma submachine gun, Spanish made copy called m41/44. Astra-Unceta y Cia SA * Esperanza y Unceta Campo-Giro Modelo 1912, 1913, 1913–16 * Esperanza y Unceta
Astra 400 The Astra modelo 400 was a Spanish service pistol produced by weapons manufacturer Astra-Unceta y Cia SA.Antaris, Leonardo M. ''American Rifleman'' (December 2008) pp.58-68 as a replacement for the Campo-Giro 1913/1916, which had also been chamb ...
(Modelo 1921), 1921–1926 * Unceta y Compania
Astra 400 The Astra modelo 400 was a Spanish service pistol produced by weapons manufacturer Astra-Unceta y Cia SA.Antaris, Leonardo M. ''American Rifleman'' (December 2008) pp.58-68 as a replacement for the Campo-Giro 1913/1916, which had also been chamb ...
(Modelo 1921), 1926–1945 or 1946 * Astra Model F (selective fire 'broomhandle' type pistol) 1934–1935 *
Astra A-80 The Astra A-80 is a double-action, semi-automatic pistol at one time produced in Spain by Astra-Unceta y Cia SA. The design is similar to the SIG Sauer P220 and features a decocking lever. The A-80 provided the first SIG-styled .45 ACP with a ...
* Astra Custom SPS ( IPSC
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) 1996–? Arrizabalaga * Arrizabalaga Sharp-Shooter * Arrizabalaga JO.LO.AR., 1924–? CETME * A.D.S.A. Model 1953 submachine gun 1953–? *
CETME C2 The CETME C2 (also named the CB-64,) is a Spanish submachine gun based on the British Sterling L2A3. It is an open bolt, blowback operated firearm that fires the 9x23mm Largo & 9x19mm pistol cartridge. Designed in the 1960s, the C2 has many no ...
submachine gun Comissió d'Industries de Guerra (CIG) *
Pistol Isard The Isard Pistol is a semi-automatic pistol that fires the 9x23mm Largo from a Blowback operated system. It was designed and produced by the ''Comisión de Industrias de Guerra'' (CIG ) (''War Industry Commission'' in English), by orders of th ...
Isard Pistol Destroyer carbine and similar 9mm Largo carbines * Ayra Duria et al. * Jose Luis Maquibar * Onena Carbine * Ignacio Zubillaga Fábrica de Armas,
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* Modelo 1941/44 submachine gun (copy of the Vollmer Erma in 9mm Largo) 1941 – mid 1950s * Copy of the
Bergmann MP28 The MP 18, manufactured by Theodor Bergmann ''Abteilung Waffenbau'', was arguably the first submachine gun used in combat. It was introduced into service in 1918 by the German Army during World War I as the primary weapon of the ''Sturmtruppen'', ...
in 9mm Largo * "No maker"
Astra 400 The Astra modelo 400 was a Spanish service pistol produced by weapons manufacturer Astra-Unceta y Cia SA.Antaris, Leonardo M. ''American Rifleman'' (December 2008) pp.58-68 as a replacement for the Campo-Giro 1913/1916, which had also been chamb ...
(Modelo 1921), 1938–1940s Fontbernat * ''Labora Fontbernat'' M-1938 submachine gun
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* Gabilondo Llama Modelo IV * Gabilondo Llama Modelo V * Gabilondo Llama Modelo VII * Gabilondo Llama Modelo VIII * Gabilondo Llama Modelo Extra Parinco * Model 3R submachine gun 1959–? Republica Española * "Naranjero" submachine gun (Modified
Bergmann MP28 The MP 18, manufactured by Theodor Bergmann ''Abteilung Waffenbau'', was arguably the first submachine gun used in combat. It was introduced into service in 1918 by the German Army during World War I as the primary weapon of the ''Sturmtruppen'', ...
) * RE (Republica Española) made
Astra 400 The Astra modelo 400 was a Spanish service pistol produced by weapons manufacturer Astra-Unceta y Cia SA.Antaris, Leonardo M. ''American Rifleman'' (December 2008) pp.58-68 as a replacement for the Campo-Giro 1913/1916, which had also been chamb ...
(Modelo 1921), 1936–1939 * Pistol F. Ascaso 1937–1939 Star Bonifacio Echeverria * Bonifacio Echeverria Star Modelo Militar 1920, 1920–1921 * Bonifacio Echeverria Star Modelo Militar 1921, 1921 only * Bonifacio Echeverria Star Modelo Militar 1922, 1922–1931 * Bonifacio Echeverria Star Modelo A (early w/flat backstrap), 1924–1931 * Bonifacio Echeverria Star Modelo A (late w/1911 Colt-style backstrap),1931–1983 * Bonifacio Echeverria Star Modelo M (slightly larger than A), 1931–1983 * Bonifacio Echeverria Star Modelo MD (M w/selective fire), 1931–1983 * Bonifacio Echeverria Star Modelo Super-A (A w/quick takedown), 1946–1983 * Bonifacio Echeverria Star Modelo Super-M (M w/quick takedown), 1946–1983 * Bonifacio Echeverria Star Modelo AS (A w/magazine safety, quick takedown, loaded chamber indicator), 1956–1983 * Bonifacio Echeverria Star Modelo MS (M w/quick takedown, loaded chamber indicator), 1956–1983 * Star Model Z-45 Submachine gun * Model Z-62 submachine gun


See also

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9 mm caliber This is a list of firearm cartridges that have bullets in the to caliber range. *''Case length'' refers to the round case length. *''OAL'' refers to the overall length of the loaded round. All measurements are given in millimeters, followed ...


Notes


External links


Las pistolas Bergmann y Campo-Giro (I) by Juan L Calvo

Las pistolas Bergmann y Campo-Giro (y II) by Juan L Calvo
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